Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I flew with a certified engine and prop and had a test time of 25 hours.Didn't even have to ask.Steve E.-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h
RE: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
If it's experimental,, 25 hours with a certified engine and 40 with anyother kind of engine. I'm quite sure that if it isn't a certified productionaircraft, then it falls under one of those hour regs. That's one of theadvantages of using a continental or franklin, 15 less hours till they cutyou loose for XC. I'll bite the bullet and keep the corvair.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
If it's experimental,, 25 hours with a certified engine and 40 with anyother kind of engine. I'm quite sure that if it isn't a certified productionaircraft, then it falls under one of those hour regs. That's one of theadvantages of using a continental or franklin, 15 less hours till they cutyou loose for XC. I'll bite the bullet and keep the corvair.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Re: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h
Original Posted By: TomTravis(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h rs?In a message dated 3/15/01 4:04:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, skycarl(at)megsinet.net writes:> If it's experimental,, 25 hours with a certified engine and 40 with any> other kind of engine. I'm quite sure that if it isn't a certified production> aircraft, then it falls under one of those hour regs. That's one of the> advantages of using a continental or franklin, 15 less hours till they cut> you loose for XC. I'll bite the bullet and keep the corvair.> Carl> > Mine was 25 hours with a model 'A' and home made prop. I didn't say a word otherwise on that deal. But even had it been 40, I wouldn't have minded because I had a 50 radius, which was plenty early on. Doug Bryant ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h rs?In a message dated 3/15/01 4:04:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, skycarl(at)megsinet.net writes:> If it's experimental,, 25 hours with a certified engine and 40 with any> other kind of engine. I'm quite sure that if it isn't a certified production> aircraft, then it falls under one of those hour regs. That's one of the> advantages of using a continental or franklin, 15 less hours till they cut> you loose for XC. I'll bite the bullet and keep the corvair.> Carl> > Mine was 25 hours with a model 'A' and home made prop. I didn't say a word otherwise on that deal. But even had it been 40, I wouldn't have minded because I had a 50 radius, which was plenty early on. Doug Bryant ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Wow Doug, then there's hope. It makes sense that by 25 hrs any bugs that arethere will show up no matter what engine you have.Is the hour assignment part of the airworthy certificate or is it adifferent form? Also, how long did it take to get the airworthy certificateapplication from the FAA? I got my numbers pretty quick but I'm not surewhen to write them for the application.One last thing, how long did it take to get the A P certification so youcould sign off work on your plane?Questions, questions, questions.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Wow Doug, then there's hope. It makes sense that by 25 hrs any bugs that arethere will show up no matter what engine you have.Is the hour assignment part of the airworthy certificate or is it adifferent form? Also, how long did it take to get the airworthy certificateapplication from the FAA? I got my numbers pretty quick but I'm not surewhen to write them for the application.One last thing, how long did it take to get the A P certification so youcould sign off work on your plane?Questions, questions, questions.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h
Original Posted By: leonstefanhutks(at)webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h rs?In a message dated 3/15/01 7:23:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, skycarl(at)megsinet.net writes:> Wow Doug, then there's hope. It makes sense that by 25 hrs any bugs that are> there will show up no matter what engine you have.> Is the hour assignment part of the airworthy certificate or is it a> different form? Also, how long did it take to get the airworthy certificate> application from the FAA? I got my numbers pretty quick but I'm not sure> when to write them for the application.> One last thing, how long did it take to get the A P certification so you> could sign off work on your plane?> Questions, questions, questions.> Carl> > Carl,I know I just got lucky on the 25 hours; it probably should have been 40 . The hours are part of the first page or phase (flight test phase) of the operating limitations. After they are flown off, you use the second page or phase two of the operating limitations from then on. All U.S. registered airplanes have some form of operating limitations. The MIDO inspector I had brought the airworthyness certificate with him and signed it after the inspection; which took an hour and 15 minutes. He was very interested in whether it was built to the plans and knew from his experience the it was a design proven by history. I found that part very fascinating. All he inspected was paper and didn't touch the airplane he just made comments that he liked it and wanted a ride. I have an A&P so I did not need to apply for a builders certificate. Not sure how it takes. All of the experiences I had during licensing were pleasant and easy. I fact, I called the inspector six weeks early and he laughed and said he just needed a couple hours notice. That is what I did. His name is Bob Smith and he is the inspector who issued our production certificate to include the Hawker 800XP and 1000 at Raytheon Aircraft, Where I work. I still talk to him when he visits Raytheon. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h rs?In a message dated 3/15/01 7:23:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, skycarl(at)megsinet.net writes:> Wow Doug, then there's hope. It makes sense that by 25 hrs any bugs that are> there will show up no matter what engine you have.> Is the hour assignment part of the airworthy certificate or is it a> different form? Also, how long did it take to get the airworthy certificate> application from the FAA? I got my numbers pretty quick but I'm not sure> when to write them for the application.> One last thing, how long did it take to get the A P certification so you> could sign off work on your plane?> Questions, questions, questions.> Carl> > Carl,I know I just got lucky on the 25 hours; it probably should have been 40 . The hours are part of the first page or phase (flight test phase) of the operating limitations. After they are flown off, you use the second page or phase two of the operating limitations from then on. All U.S. registered airplanes have some form of operating limitations. The MIDO inspector I had brought the airworthyness certificate with him and signed it after the inspection; which took an hour and 15 minutes. He was very interested in whether it was built to the plans and knew from his experience the it was a design proven by history. I found that part very fascinating. All he inspected was paper and didn't touch the airplane he just made comments that he liked it and wanted a ride. I have an A&P so I did not need to apply for a builders certificate. Not sure how it takes. All of the experiences I had during licensing were pleasant and easy. I fact, I called the inspector six weeks early and he laughed and said he just needed a couple hours notice. That is what I did. His name is Bob Smith and he is the inspector who issued our production certificate to include the Hawker 800XP and 1000 at Raytheon Aircraft, Where I work. I still talk to him when he visits Raytheon. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: are some of us able to fly off less than 40 h
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Glad someone had a good experience. Ask around and find out which FAA folksare familiar with Experimentals. I got a guy who had never done one, andspent more time training him (read pain and agony). He spent four hours atthe airport and we had several follow up problems that gave me heartburn. Iwas allowed to apply for the repairman certificat after the 25 hours wereflown off. It took a month or so to get after sending it in. -not really aproblem since you won't need it for a year after certification.Steve E-----Original Message-----
Glad someone had a good experience. Ask around and find out which FAA folksare familiar with Experimentals. I got a guy who had never done one, andspent more time training him (read pain and agony). He spent four hours atthe airport and we had several follow up problems that gave me heartburn. Iwas allowed to apply for the repairman certificat after the 25 hours wereflown off. It took a month or so to get after sending it in. -not really aproblem since you won't need it for a year after certification.Steve E-----Original Message-----