Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
I've been to some really interesting presentations by Vi Kapler and William Wynneat Brodhead......those were fun.So I'm wondering if there be any interest is seeing vacuum bagging, powdercoating,streamling wood legs or struts with a router, or some such thing at Brodhead?Maybe someone could setup a metal cutting bandsaw and a grinder and sander andgive some step by step pointers on building the metal parts?(I personally think some hands on welding help by someone who knew what they weredoing (CERTAINLY not me..) would be really neat.)Let's get one thing clear though....I'm certainly not pretending to be any kindof expert on any of this. But I would be glad to maybe point out a few easyways to do some stuff (finding easy ways is my specialty) and maybe some mistakesto avoid (I've made them ALL already...)Anyway, I wouldn't mind bringing a vacuum bagging setup or my powder coating setupor whatever, if there would be any interest.Jim in Plano________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafuIn a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka(at)charter.net writes:Walt,Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This willinhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them tofire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature.chrisBraumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und FlitzermotorenThis is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method.I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time.Chris,I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafuIn a message dated 6/23/2005 10:37:40 PM Central Standard Time, sbobka(at)charter.net writes:Walt,Tie it down. Have a good man in the cockpit. Have him open the throttle fully with the magnetos off. Pull the prop through slowly backwards. This willinhale air through the exhausts and exhale it out the carb so as to lean out the mixture. Don't worry about the mags firing as it is impossible for them tofire if they rotate backwards. After cleaning out the cylinders with 4 to 8 180 degree rotations, go to throttle closed, slowly reposition the balde to the 10:30 position. Then Mags on, throttle cracked, and it will start on the next flip. This is the same procedure to use for a flooded engine at any temperature.chrisBraumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und FlitzermotorenThis is the exact method that a guy on the south side of Kansas City showed me in '03, on my return trip from Brodhead. Worked like a charm. It was hot that day, and it wouldn't fire at all, untill we used this method.I don't have a primer...if it ain't there, it can't break. My engine seems to start better in the warmer weather...most of the time.Chris,I've been wondering what 'Braumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren' means.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet over Kansas
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet over KansasI hadn't noticed that flight sim when I was there a couple of years ago. I'll have to go and check it out...hummmmm...aerobatics in a Piet...Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet over KansasI hadn't noticed that flight sim when I was there a couple of years ago. I'll have to go and check it out...hummmmm...aerobatics in a Piet...Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/24/2005 11:16:30 AM Central Standard Time, elj(at)shreve.net writes:But the _most_ important thing I found in my engine, was to give a slight upswing before the downswing for the start. This worked wonders and proved to be equally effective on Corky's plane. That motion is done rather quickly, with a slight push up or clockwise (opposite direction from starting) before the downswing of the prop to start the engine. I found my engine at times wouldn't start without doing this and it became instinctive over the years with my engine and any other I hand propped.I'll have to try that one, too, if the need arises.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol List: A-65 starting snafu In a message dated 6/24/2005 11:16:30 AM Central Standard Time, elj(at)shreve.net writes:But the _most_ important thing I found in my engine, was to give a slight upswing before the downswing for the start. This worked wonders and proved to be equally effective on Corky's plane. That motion is done rather quickly, with a slight push up or clockwise (opposite direction from starting) before the downswing of the prop to start the engine. I found my engine at times wouldn't start without doing this and it became instinctive over the years with my engine and any other I hand propped.I'll have to try that one, too, if the need arises.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Info Requested
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Info RequestedCamping is the best at Brodhead !! That way you won't miss being woke up by the 'Dawn Patrol'.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead Info RequestedCamping is the best at Brodhead !! That way you won't miss being woke up by the 'Dawn Patrol'.Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?In a message dated 6/25/2005 8:59:38 AM Central Standard Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:So I'm wondering if there be any interest is seeing vacuum bagging, powdercoating, streamling wood legs or struts with a router, or some such thingat Brodhead?Jim,I am certain, that any seminar that you give would be educational, and Most Entertaining !!Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?In a message dated 6/25/2005 8:59:38 AM Central Standard Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:So I'm wondering if there be any interest is seeing vacuum bagging, powdercoating, streamling wood legs or struts with a router, or some such thingat Brodhead?Jim,I am certain, that any seminar that you give would be educational, and Most Entertaining !!Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Jim We already did a powder coating demo at Brodhead. It was well received. Had a lotof Questions durning and after the demo.Dale in Mpls----- Original Message -----
Jim We already did a powder coating demo at Brodhead. It was well received. Had a lotof Questions durning and after the demo.Dale in Mpls----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
I already did a powdercoating presentation at Brodhead. Does anybody remember?ChrisBraumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message -----
I already did a powdercoating presentation at Brodhead. Does anybody remember?ChrisBraumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Gar Williams provided the air compressor. I will find his email address and forwardto you.ChrisBraumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message -----
Gar Williams provided the air compressor. I will find his email address and forwardto you.ChrisBraumeister und Inspektor der Flitzer und Flitzermotoren ----- Original Message -----
Fw: Pietenpol-List: A-65 starting snafu
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
Yep, it also means Speedster, as in Flivver (like a Jeep or a fast, stripped-downor 'homebuilt car') and was also applied semi-officially to the BMW Dixie,which was a sport version of the Austin Seven open sport model, licence-builtin Germany in the late 1920s. It came to mean 'Streaker' too when that 'sport'became popular from the 1960s, so the Stummelflitzer, (Clipped Flitzer) can mean'Stumpy Streaker' which got some rib-aching laughter response from two ofGerard's client's a while back, when he told them what he was building: an oldfashioned airplane called a 'Fat Streaker' !It was also applied to fast motorcycles, or quick courier services.It also means Madcap, or something frenetic. The Focke-Wulf Flitzer twin boom jetfighter was so-named. Thies translates it as 'Speedster', but a biting flyor mosquito is appropriate if there's one on the tail of your Minimax and it won'tlet go!Cheers,Lynn________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:41:04 -0400
Yep, it also means Speedster, as in Flivver (like a Jeep or a fast, stripped-downor 'homebuilt car') and was also applied semi-officially to the BMW Dixie,which was a sport version of the Austin Seven open sport model, licence-builtin Germany in the late 1920s. It came to mean 'Streaker' too when that 'sport'became popular from the 1960s, so the Stummelflitzer, (Clipped Flitzer) can mean'Stumpy Streaker' which got some rib-aching laughter response from two ofGerard's client's a while back, when he told them what he was building: an oldfashioned airplane called a 'Fat Streaker' !It was also applied to fast motorcycles, or quick courier services.It also means Madcap, or something frenetic. The Focke-Wulf Flitzer twin boom jetfighter was so-named. Thies translates it as 'Speedster', but a biting flyor mosquito is appropriate if there's one on the tail of your Minimax and it won'tlet go!Cheers,Lynn________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:41:04 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Original Posted By: john e fay
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Seminars at Brodhead?
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing question
Original Posted By: harvey.rule(at)bell.ca
I need to decide if I can build the one piece wing. Here is the situation, it looks like I will be building my wing about 60 miles from my house(in my parents garage) I might be able to build the one piece wing there. After I build it, it will not fit in my garage and storing it in the house is not an option. I will not have a hanger for any foreseeable future so that's out too. Is it really feasible to build the one piece wing? Will I run into problems if I build the wing and fuselage without fitting them together? Should I just build the 3 piece wing so my life is easier? Come on let me know what you think, everyone has an opinion.Chris TracySacramento, Ca________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing questionDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:09:20 -0400
I need to decide if I can build the one piece wing. Here is the situation, it looks like I will be building my wing about 60 miles from my house(in my parents garage) I might be able to build the one piece wing there. After I build it, it will not fit in my garage and storing it in the house is not an option. I will not have a hanger for any foreseeable future so that's out too. Is it really feasible to build the one piece wing? Will I run into problems if I build the wing and fuselage without fitting them together? Should I just build the 3 piece wing so my life is easier? Come on let me know what you think, everyone has an opinion.Chris TracySacramento, Ca________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing questionDate: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:09:20 -0400
> Pietenpol-List: Wing question
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Sounds like you NEED to build a three piece wing...You could probably build the panels at home rather than drive 60 miles each way just to work on it...If I had to drive that far to work on it I might never get it finished...Plus you could then transport the panels easily and store them at home...>From: "Catdesign" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing question>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:50:41 -0700>>>I need to decide if I can build the one piece wing. Here is the situation, >it looks like I will be building my wing about 60 miles from my house(in my >parents garage) I might be able to build the one piece wing there. After I >build it, it will not fit in my garage and storing it in the house is not >an option. I will not have a hanger for any foreseeable future so that's >out too. Is it really feasible to build the one piece wing? Will I run >into problems if I build the wing and fuselage without fitting them >together? Should I just build the 3 piece wing so my life is easier? Come >on let me know what you think, everyone has an opinion.>>Chris Tracy>Sacramento, Ca>>________________________________________________________________________________
Sounds like you NEED to build a three piece wing...You could probably build the panels at home rather than drive 60 miles each way just to work on it...If I had to drive that far to work on it I might never get it finished...Plus you could then transport the panels easily and store them at home...>From: "Catdesign" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing question>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:50:41 -0700>>>I need to decide if I can build the one piece wing. Here is the situation, >it looks like I will be building my wing about 60 miles from my house(in my >parents garage) I might be able to build the one piece wing there. After I >build it, it will not fit in my garage and storing it in the house is not >an option. I will not have a hanger for any foreseeable future so that's >out too. Is it really feasible to build the one piece wing? Will I run >into problems if I build the wing and fuselage without fitting them >together? Should I just build the 3 piece wing so my life is easier? Come >on let me know what you think, everyone has an opinion.>>Chris Tracy>Sacramento, Ca>>________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing question
Original Posted By: "Catdesign"
Chris,The 3-piece wing will add a significant amount of work and time to yourproject.If at all possible, go with the 1-piece wing.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----
Chris,The 3-piece wing will add a significant amount of work and time to yourproject.If at all possible, go with the 1-piece wing.Greg Cardinal----- Original Message -----