Original Posted By: "Gordon Bowen"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: clear answers from Mike HardawayNow there is the first post on all of this that really cuts to the chase. Thank you, Mike. I trust a veteran who is an attorneywho also loves Pietenpols.All the whimpering and crying and gnashing of teeth about this is pretty funny when you think about the tremendous amount oftime and effort that Grant put into that newsletter-----a total volunteer effort with no pay what so ever (like he really needed it)and dues that didn't even cover the costs of production, mailing, his returning long-distance phone calls and letters over the years,answering e-mails, hosting a web page (That by the way is STILL UP and running for ALL of us to use today) and doing it for almost TEN years.Grant is not even a pilot---but loves old designs, Model A Ford's and helped his good friend Howard Henderson build Howard's Pietin the St. Louis area. I would take Mike Hardaway's words to heart as his depth of legal knowledge and experience illuminate Grant'slegal and ethical rights, no matter how we might feel about what he 'should do' or outta do or isn't doing.I know Grant fairly well and he helps so many organizations that you cannot imagine. He helps do web work on mostly a volunteer effortfor his graduating class, garden and nature centers, Ford A organizations and support affiliations, and other various causes too numerousto mention. Grant didn't need to do the Piet web page or newsletter anymore than he needed a migraine headache. Give the guy somecredit for doing what he did and maybe approach him with this kind of gratitude in an effort of diplomacy to see what his reasoning is, seewhat his thoughts are, and try to encourage him positively and perhaps things might happen for the good to release the archived newsletters.The fact stands that NOBODY has stepped up to the plate like Grant did for almost a decade since he stopped doing the newsletter sevenyears ago in 1999. (sans the diluted version that came out since then and appears to have since died.)For what its worth---Mike Cuy________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: clear answers from Mike Hardaway
Pietenpol-List: Re: clear answers from Mike Hardaway
Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: clear answers from Mike HardawayThanks to Google, I've probably dug up every bit of Pietenpol info on the web,some of which has the BPA brand name. I agree, Grant did a great job and I stillfind stuff out there from that era and enjoy reading it. I've been at thisless than a year and don't know exactly where the bad feelings came into playbut I think we could put together a lasting unified resource that a lot of folkswould benefit from and contribute to, with or without the old material. A new site or newsletter would just be a continuation of whatever was there beforeand is exactly in the spirit that insipired Chuck to build his site and meto build mine. When Chuck talked to me about his site before he went live withit, he spoke of starting a Pietenpol movement. I've never had a more positiveand like minded group undertaking a project of this scale and I'd do anythingto get more people into it. You guys are a lot more fun than the EAA chapterguys. I'd love to see more people and ideas flowing around planes like ours.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: clear answers from Mike HardawayThanks to Google, I've probably dug up every bit of Pietenpol info on the web,some of which has the BPA brand name. I agree, Grant did a great job and I stillfind stuff out there from that era and enjoy reading it. I've been at thisless than a year and don't know exactly where the bad feelings came into playbut I think we could put together a lasting unified resource that a lot of folkswould benefit from and contribute to, with or without the old material. A new site or newsletter would just be a continuation of whatever was there beforeand is exactly in the spirit that insipired Chuck to build his site and meto build mine. When Chuck talked to me about his site before he went live withit, he spoke of starting a Pietenpol movement. I've never had a more positiveand like minded group undertaking a project of this scale and I'd do anythingto get more people into it. You guys are a lot more fun than the EAA chapterguys. I'd love to see more people and ideas flowing around planes like ours.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: clear answers from Mike Hardaway
Original Posted By: Plncrzy3(at)netscape.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: clear answers from Mike HardawayFunny you should mention your EAA chapter guys. I attended a chapter meetingthe other night involving going from hanger to hanger looking at projects. Iproudly wore my 'Pietenpol - Cherry Grove ..' shirt and as we went from RV6to RV8 to Lanair to R10 I had about five diferent guys ask me what aPietenpol was. And guess what? Nobody in the group I talked to had everheard of one. Guess once you get in RV-land there just isn't any otheraircraft worth worrying about.Great website also Glenn.RIckOn 6/26/06, Glenn Thomas wrote:>> glennthomas(at)flyingwood.com>> You guys are a lot more fun than the EAA chapter guys. I'd love to see> more people and ideas fl!> owing around planes like ours.>> --------> Glenn Thomas> N?????> http://www.flyingwood.com>>-- Rick Holland"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: clear answers from Mike HardawayFunny you should mention your EAA chapter guys. I attended a chapter meetingthe other night involving going from hanger to hanger looking at projects. Iproudly wore my 'Pietenpol - Cherry Grove ..' shirt and as we went from RV6to RV8 to Lanair to R10 I had about five diferent guys ask me what aPietenpol was. And guess what? Nobody in the group I talked to had everheard of one. Guess once you get in RV-land there just isn't any otheraircraft worth worrying about.Great website also Glenn.RIckOn 6/26/06, Glenn Thomas wrote:>> glennthomas(at)flyingwood.com>> You guys are a lot more fun than the EAA chapter guys. I'd love to see> more people and ideas fl!> owing around planes like ours.>> --------> Glenn Thomas> N?????> http://www.flyingwood.com>>-- Rick Holland"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"________________________________________________________________________________