Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingHey guys,I'm getting ready to spray my wings, but am a bit unsure as to the best way to route the upper aileron cable through the fabric as it runs from the pull to the aileron control horn.I read Chuck's message about how he does the bottom one where it exits through a plexi inspection circle screwed on, and it sounds pretty good. What have you guys done up top?I'm leaning towards just putting a patch there and burning a hole in the right spot. doesn't seem like anything else is necessary. In a rainstorm, water will certainly find its way in, so I'd better have good drainage. Also, would anyone with HVLP spraying experience tell me if it's safe to spray in my backyard? There are no cars around, and the closest house is 50 ft, so I'm hoping the minimal overspray, plus the fast drying time of dope will allowme to spray here rather than trucking everything somewhere else.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp spraying
Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp spraying
Original Posted By: "Gordon Bowen"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp spraying
Original Posted By: Douwe Blumberg
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingDouwe,I HVLP'ed N-1033B in backyard in FL, from chromate on metal to final coats on fabric. You just have to insure the wind is very calm and surface you're painting is dry. I painted early morn and late evening, mid-day the slight breeze was too much. WEAR A GOOD CARBON-MASK TIGHT TO YOUR FACE.Gordon ----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingDouwe,I HVLP'ed N-1033B in backyard in FL, from chromate on metal to final coats on fabric. You just have to insure the wind is very calm and surface you're painting is dry. I painted early morn and late evening, mid-day the slight breeze was too much. WEAR A GOOD CARBON-MASK TIGHT TO YOUR FACE.Gordon ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp spraying
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingIn a message dated 6/29/2006 7:38:01 AM Central Standard Time, douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net writes:Hey guys,I'm getting ready to spray my wings, but am a bit unsure as to the best way to route the upper aileron cable through the fabric as it runs from the pull tothe aileron control horn.I read Chuck's message about how he does the bottom one where it exits through a plexi inspection circle screwed on, and it sounds pretty good. Whathave you guys done up top?I'm leaning towards just putting a patch there and burning a hole in the right spot. doesn't seem like anything else is necessary. In a rainstorm, waterwill certainly find its way in, so I'd better have good drainage. Also, would anyone with HVLP spraying experience tell me if it's safe to spray in my backyard? There are no cars around, and the closest house is 50 ft,so I'm hoping the minimal overspray, plus the fast drying time of dope will allowme to spray here rather than trucking everything somewhere else.DouweDouwe, The bottom aileron cable that goes to the bottom of the horn, passes through a piece of round LEXAN, not Plexiglas. Lexan is Much tougher than Plexiglas. I used 8 countersunk screws to secure the clear Lexan to a piece of1/4" plywood joggled to accept the lexan cover, under the fabric. The fabric then wraps around the plywood, then the Lexan cover is installed on top of the fabric. The hole in the Lexan that the cable passes through is on the exact angle the cable is, and is just barely big enough for the cable, which is why itcan be used as the actual fairlead, that keeps the cable in the groove of the pulley. The tradeoff with Lexan is that any fuel spilled on it will make it crack, unless it is treated (including the edges), when used for a windshield.Plexiglas is fuel resistant, but not nearly as tough as Lexan. For the top cable, I glued a 2 1/2" or 3" oval piece of 1/16" plywood to the fabric, then covered the plywood with another fabric patch, overlapping the plywood by 1 1/2"or 2" with the fabric patch. Those upper and lower aileron horn pulleys MUST have some type of fairleads to keep the cables in the pulleys. A fabric patch is NOT good enough for a fairlead. I have some good pictures of it on myweb site. Years ago, I've painted over 100 cars with the old syphon type guns, but they are totally antiquated by the HVLP type spray equipment. I'm buying new HVLP spray equipment, but haven't used it yet. I think that's the Only way togo.Chuck G.NX770CGhttp://nx770cg.com/________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingIn a message dated 6/29/2006 7:38:01 AM Central Standard Time, douweblumberg(at)earthlink.net writes:Hey guys,I'm getting ready to spray my wings, but am a bit unsure as to the best way to route the upper aileron cable through the fabric as it runs from the pull tothe aileron control horn.I read Chuck's message about how he does the bottom one where it exits through a plexi inspection circle screwed on, and it sounds pretty good. Whathave you guys done up top?I'm leaning towards just putting a patch there and burning a hole in the right spot. doesn't seem like anything else is necessary. In a rainstorm, waterwill certainly find its way in, so I'd better have good drainage. Also, would anyone with HVLP spraying experience tell me if it's safe to spray in my backyard? There are no cars around, and the closest house is 50 ft,so I'm hoping the minimal overspray, plus the fast drying time of dope will allowme to spray here rather than trucking everything somewhere else.DouweDouwe, The bottom aileron cable that goes to the bottom of the horn, passes through a piece of round LEXAN, not Plexiglas. Lexan is Much tougher than Plexiglas. I used 8 countersunk screws to secure the clear Lexan to a piece of1/4" plywood joggled to accept the lexan cover, under the fabric. The fabric then wraps around the plywood, then the Lexan cover is installed on top of the fabric. The hole in the Lexan that the cable passes through is on the exact angle the cable is, and is just barely big enough for the cable, which is why itcan be used as the actual fairlead, that keeps the cable in the groove of the pulley. The tradeoff with Lexan is that any fuel spilled on it will make it crack, unless it is treated (including the edges), when used for a windshield.Plexiglas is fuel resistant, but not nearly as tough as Lexan. For the top cable, I glued a 2 1/2" or 3" oval piece of 1/16" plywood to the fabric, then covered the plywood with another fabric patch, overlapping the plywood by 1 1/2"or 2" with the fabric patch. Those upper and lower aileron horn pulleys MUST have some type of fairleads to keep the cables in the pulleys. A fabric patch is NOT good enough for a fairlead. I have some good pictures of it on myweb site. Years ago, I've painted over 100 cars with the old syphon type guns, but they are totally antiquated by the HVLP type spray equipment. I'm buying new HVLP spray equipment, but haven't used it yet. I think that's the Only way togo.Chuck G.NX770CGhttp://nx770cg.com/________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp spraying
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingIn a message dated 6/29/2006 12:38:13 PM Central Standard Time, gbowen(at)ptialaska.net writes:WEAR A GOOD CARBON-MASK TIGHT TO YOUR FACE.Yep, but an air supply would be much healthier, especially when using any of the epoxy paints. If you do use just a mask, you Absolutely Are Not Allowed to have a beard while doing this work. In other words, you must have 100% perfect seal around the mask.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: to aileron cable fairing/hvlp sprayingIn a message dated 6/29/2006 12:38:13 PM Central Standard Time, gbowen(at)ptialaska.net writes:WEAR A GOOD CARBON-MASK TIGHT TO YOUR FACE.Yep, but an air supply would be much healthier, especially when using any of the epoxy paints. If you do use just a mask, you Absolutely Are Not Allowed to have a beard while doing this work. In other words, you must have 100% perfect seal around the mask.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________