Original Posted By: "gbowen(at)ptialaska.net"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionHas anyone on the list bought a prop from a guy named Jay Anderson, who's company goes by the name CloudCars. He is advertising wood props on eBay for $500. They look good in the photos but I was curious if anyone had any actual flight experience with them. Matt Paxton************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Prop question
Pietenpol-List: Prop question
Original Posted By: "gbowen(at)ptialaska.net"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionHas anyone on the list bought a prop from a guy named Jay Anderson, who's company goes by the name CloudCars. He is advertising wood props on eBayfor $500. They look good in the photos but I was curious if anyone had anyactual flight experience with them. Matt Paxton************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL athttp://www.aol.com.--------------------------------------------------------------------mail2web - Check your email from the web athttp://link.mail2web.com/mail2web________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionHas anyone on the list bought a prop from a guy named Jay Anderson, who's company goes by the name CloudCars. He is advertising wood props on eBayfor $500. They look good in the photos but I was curious if anyone had anyactual flight experience with them. Matt Paxton************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL athttp://www.aol.com.--------------------------------------------------------------------mail2web - Check your email from the web athttp://link.mail2web.com/mail2web________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop question
Original Posted By: Woodflier(at)aol.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionYep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. It harnesses the 108hp Lyco quite nicely, lotsof thrust and after 30 hrs of grass and paved take-off/landing thepolyurethane end coatings he puts on holds up well. Jay has gotten kindabusy in last couple years and has extended his lead times. If you orderfrom him get a fixed delivery time, even if you don't need the prop yet,and then start calling about delivery 2 weeks before schedule andthereafter weekly to insure you don't slip down on the priority of dellist. My prop was 4 weeks late but worth every penny paid.GordonOriginal Message:-----------------
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionYep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. It harnesses the 108hp Lyco quite nicely, lotsof thrust and after 30 hrs of grass and paved take-off/landing thepolyurethane end coatings he puts on holds up well. Jay has gotten kindabusy in last couple years and has extended his lead times. If you orderfrom him get a fixed delivery time, even if you don't need the prop yet,and then start calling about delivery 2 weeks before schedule andthereafter weekly to insure you don't slip down on the priority of dellist. My prop was 4 weeks late but worth every penny paid.GordonOriginal Message:-----------------
RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop question
Original Posted By: Woodflier(at)aol.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionYep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. It harnesses the 108hp Lyco quite nicely, lotsof thrust and after 30 hrs of grass and paved take-off/landing thepolyurethane end coatings he puts on holds up well. Jay has gotten kindabusy in last couple years and has extended his lead times. If you orderfrom him get a fixed delivery time, even if you don't need the prop yet,and then start calling about delivery 2 weeks before schedule andthereafter weekly to insure you don't slip down on the priority of dellist. My prop was 4 weeks late but worth every penny paid.GordonOriginal Message:-----------------
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionYep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. It harnesses the 108hp Lyco quite nicely, lotsof thrust and after 30 hrs of grass and paved take-off/landing thepolyurethane end coatings he puts on holds up well. Jay has gotten kindabusy in last couple years and has extended his lead times. If you orderfrom him get a fixed delivery time, even if you don't need the prop yet,and then start calling about delivery 2 weeks before schedule andthereafter weekly to insure you don't slip down on the priority of dellist. My prop was 4 weeks late but worth every penny paid.GordonOriginal Message:-----------------
Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop question
Original Posted By: "gcardinal"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionIn a message dated 2/28/2007 10:18:39 AM Central Standard Time, gbowen(at)ptialaska.net writes:Yep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. Gordon,When you say 'Scimitar Shaped', do you mean an actual Scimitar prop, or a Semi-Scimitar ?? The way Eric Clutton describes a Scimitar prop, is that the radius of the swept back blades, is the same as the radius of the prop. It's aVery noticeable swept back blade. I've not heard much from anyone that has anactual Scimitar prop, and have been planning on building one for quite a whilenow. Do you know if Jay uses the plans called out in Eric Clutton's book ? The way he calls out the plank orientation is also unconventional, in that there are 3/16" to 1/4" laminates, and they lay parallel to the line of flight.I'm very interested in anyone who has flight tested a True Scimitar Prop.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionIn a message dated 2/28/2007 10:18:39 AM Central Standard Time, gbowen(at)ptialaska.net writes:Yep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. Gordon,When you say 'Scimitar Shaped', do you mean an actual Scimitar prop, or a Semi-Scimitar ?? The way Eric Clutton describes a Scimitar prop, is that the radius of the swept back blades, is the same as the radius of the prop. It's aVery noticeable swept back blade. I've not heard much from anyone that has anactual Scimitar prop, and have been planning on building one for quite a whilenow. Do you know if Jay uses the plans called out in Eric Clutton's book ? The way he calls out the plank orientation is also unconventional, in that there are 3/16" to 1/4" laminates, and they lay parallel to the line of flight.I'm very interested in anyone who has flight tested a True Scimitar Prop.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop question
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionIn a message dated 2/28/2007 10:18:39 AM Central Standard Time, gbowen(at)ptialaska.net writes:Yep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. Gordon,When you say 'Scimitar Shaped', do you mean an actual Scimitar prop, or a Semi-Scimitar ?? The way Eric Clutton describes a Scimitar prop, is thatthe radius of the swept back blades, is the same as the radius of the prop. It's a Very noticeable swept back blade. I've not heard much from anyone that hasan actual Scimitar prop, and have been planning on building one for quite awhile now. Do you know if Jay uses the plans called out in Eric Clutton's book ?The way he calls out the plank orientation is also unconventional, in that there are 3/16" to 1/4" laminates, and they lay parallel to the line offlight. I'm very interested in anyone who has flight tested a True Scimitar Prop.Chuck G.NX770CG--------------------------------------------------------------------myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft Windows and Linux web and applicationhosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting____ ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionIn a message dated 2/28/2007 10:18:39 AM Central Standard Time, gbowen(at)ptialaska.net writes:Yep, bought couple years ago a scrimitar shaped beauty made of maple andwalnut laminates from Jay. Gordon,When you say 'Scimitar Shaped', do you mean an actual Scimitar prop, or a Semi-Scimitar ?? The way Eric Clutton describes a Scimitar prop, is thatthe radius of the swept back blades, is the same as the radius of the prop. It's a Very noticeable swept back blade. I've not heard much from anyone that hasan actual Scimitar prop, and have been planning on building one for quite awhile now. Do you know if Jay uses the plans called out in Eric Clutton's book ?The way he calls out the plank orientation is also unconventional, in that there are 3/16" to 1/4" laminates, and they lay parallel to the line offlight. I'm very interested in anyone who has flight tested a True Scimitar Prop.Chuck G.NX770CG--------------------------------------------------------------------myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft Windows and Linux web and applicationhosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting____ ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Landing gear???
Original Posted By: Dave Abramson
NX18235 uses 1 1/2" X .120 4130 tubing for the axle. After 80 hours of abuse it is still straight. ----- Original Message -----
NX18235 uses 1 1/2" X .120 4130 tubing for the axle. After 80 hours of abuse it is still straight. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop question
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionChuck,Don't know the tech details of your questions well enough to answer. Justsaw what Jay had to offer due to the pictures on his website and thescrimitar shape seem way cool for a Piete and was cheaper than any otheralternative prop. I've been happy with it, has lots of thrust. Brakescan't hold it on pavement turning 1700 rpm. On grass/sand I can hold itfor runup but have Cessna 172 hydraulic brakes. Churn about 2550 on takeoffwith the 108hp Lyco, indicating about 1000'/min. Can cruise all day longat 2050 rpm, 80 mph, 6.5 gal/hr, Piete weighs 690 lbs, me- 280 lbs and 22gal fuel.GordonOriginal Message:-----------------
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop questionChuck,Don't know the tech details of your questions well enough to answer. Justsaw what Jay had to offer due to the pictures on his website and thescrimitar shape seem way cool for a Piete and was cheaper than any otheralternative prop. I've been happy with it, has lots of thrust. Brakescan't hold it on pavement turning 1700 rpm. On grass/sand I can hold itfor runup but have Cessna 172 hydraulic brakes. Churn about 2550 on takeoffwith the 108hp Lyco, indicating about 1000'/min. Can cruise all day longat 2050 rpm, 80 mph, 6.5 gal/hr, Piete weighs 690 lbs, me- 280 lbs and 22gal fuel.GordonOriginal Message:-----------------