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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Value of EAAPieters,Interesting to read the frequent comments about EAA. Pro and con comments will in the end mean a stronger organization. I have not kept up with EAA for the last few years nor have I continued my membership. I do read the magazinesas my next door neighbor furnishes. If you don't have EAA what do you have between the builder and FAA? Some organization MUST be vigilant to counter the effects of those Washington dreamers and changers. Granted that EAA has gone offtrack from it's original purposes but I'll give them credit for judgement. When I joined EAA was being run by Mr & Mrs Paul P, never could pronounce his last name, from their residence in Hales Corner, Wis. He was working full time during the day and EAAing at night and on weekends. Dues were $10 and you got a magazine. The organizationspurred the homebuilding movement worldwide. There was absolutely NOTHING along this line before nor has there been anything new since. EAA had to changewith the times. Kit planes, ultra lights and now LSA dominate the scene and this is good for aviation. I hope it won't be long before everyone can look upin the skies and see Cubs, Aeroncas, Pietenpols, Wacos, Stinsons, Cessnas, Beeches, Taylorcrafts, Birds, Standards, Travel Airs, Ryans as well as the RV series and all those fine kit planes flying happily every Sat and Sun afternoon in the good ole USA and CanadaCorkyEAA 7090http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: keeping the PietDate: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:17:16 -0400
Pietenpol-List: keeping the Piet
Re: Pietenpol-List: keeping the Piet
Original Posted By: harvey.rule(at)bell.ca
Harvey,It's a decision I think you'll be happy you made. Enjoy!Gene ----- Original Message -----
Harvey,It's a decision I think you'll be happy you made. Enjoy!Gene ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Value of EAA
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-
I think, could be wrong, that what you're observing is what some of us are holdingEAA accountable for. LSA was about making aircraft affordable again. As Iwatched this bit of rulemaking take shape it appeared the EAA was fostering itwell. It wasn't until I saw the price tags on the offerings of the companiesin that space which EAA supported and spotlighted that I realized someone wasmissing the reality check.At the latest Airventure, I was constantly cruising the area and feeling like Imust be the only guy there wondering how in the world a price of $60-90k on anew Cub variation could be considered competitive. It's competitive only withinthe manufacturing circle and certainly not within the market. The reason thatCessna sold so many airplanes through the 60's was that the price fit withina certain percentage of the medium income. There is nothing on the market todaycertifiable as an airplane whose price falls within that median income target.In other words, I'm an average guy and I can't afford what is being representedas the average market. As the champions of LSA, EAA missed the mark as they supportedthe efforts behind these unrealistically priced machines. That's alsowhat's wrong with Cessna's LSA. Most of the orders are from schools. Neitherthe schools nor the manufacturer have yet realized that they are wasting theirmoney if they can't afford to sell an airplane to someone AFTER they get theirlicense. In order to sustain reasonable prices and production, the craft haveto become affordable for general ownership. Making that happen assures the schoolsthat they'll have students in the future.Greg Chapmanhttp://www.mousetrax.comhttp://www.layer1wireless.com "Don't start with me or I'll replace you with a small and efficient script!"> -----Original Message-----
I think, could be wrong, that what you're observing is what some of us are holdingEAA accountable for. LSA was about making aircraft affordable again. As Iwatched this bit of rulemaking take shape it appeared the EAA was fostering itwell. It wasn't until I saw the price tags on the offerings of the companiesin that space which EAA supported and spotlighted that I realized someone wasmissing the reality check.At the latest Airventure, I was constantly cruising the area and feeling like Imust be the only guy there wondering how in the world a price of $60-90k on anew Cub variation could be considered competitive. It's competitive only withinthe manufacturing circle and certainly not within the market. The reason thatCessna sold so many airplanes through the 60's was that the price fit withina certain percentage of the medium income. There is nothing on the market todaycertifiable as an airplane whose price falls within that median income target.In other words, I'm an average guy and I can't afford what is being representedas the average market. As the champions of LSA, EAA missed the mark as they supportedthe efforts behind these unrealistically priced machines. That's alsowhat's wrong with Cessna's LSA. Most of the orders are from schools. Neitherthe schools nor the manufacturer have yet realized that they are wasting theirmoney if they can't afford to sell an airplane to someone AFTER they get theirlicense. In order to sustain reasonable prices and production, the craft haveto become affordable for general ownership. Making that happen assures the schoolsthat they'll have students in the future.Greg Chapmanhttp://www.mousetrax.comhttp://www.layer1wireless.com "Don't start with me or I'll replace you with a small and efficient script!"> -----Original Message-----