Pietenpol-List: Retraction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:31 pm

Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
The Corvair on Mark Langford's KR is probably one of the most engineered and detailedones on the planet. Mark has developed some of the ideas and techniquesthat are now incorporated into William Wynne's conversion parts and Mark hasheavily test-flown and proven his parts and techniques. His engine is instrumentedto the nth degree and he takes his laptop along on every flight, loggingall pertinent data including EGT, CHTs, intake temp, cowling temp, ambient temp,fuel flow, and of course the airplane performance data, altitude, speed,and all the rest of it. Going down to Alabama his KR logged excellent fuel economyand performance both in "economy cruise" and "max cruise" configurations.The Corvair is an honest 100 HP engine in most good conversions; probably somewhatless in the original Bernard Pietenpol conversion with standard auto partsand the top blower for cooling, but plenty of power for the Piet. Just askHans! ;o) The Corvair on N40WH is a good one as they go, but it would stillneed a complete tear-down for inspection and to remove the crankshaft to haveit nitrided. When this one was converted, the nitriding issue had not cometo light and a few cranks have broken as a result.And Mike Cuy wrote->I would only buy this project if it had a nice color scheme and wheel pants.In fact, it has neither. I don't like the (yellow) paint scheme on it. You know,some people look at the glass as half-empty; I see it as half-full. And Iam also partial to stray dogs, some of which make far better and more loyal companionsthan pure-bred dogs ;o) Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Retraction

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:37 am

Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Retraction, EAA and AOPA> We should all appreciate our collective freedom and the poor buggers> that are out there with their ass on the line for us!I think of these> people every time I get into my car or my plane.To a few is owed much.> > > > ________________________________>

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:51 am

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:14 am

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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retraction, EAA and AOPAGuys,I agree wholeheartedly with the notion that we ALL should, as a matter of pragmatism, join either EAA or AOPA simply for the lobbying efforts in Washington. Those politicians (bastards) would take our flying privileges awayin a heartbeat if it meant scoring some kind of political points somewhere. They would shut us down completely in the name of "safety" so fast it would make all of our collective heads spin. I recently went on a tour of Europe and Asia,and NEVER saw one single small plane flying in any of the countries I visited. Very eerie feeling around there with the absence of private aviation,especially for me being used to living at the Poplar Grove Airport (C77). Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Retraction, EAA and AOPADate: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:24:28 -0400

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:01 am

Original Posted By: harvey.rule(at)bell.ca
Subject: Re: RE: Pietenpol-List: Retraction, EAA and AOPAAs a general rule I don't believe in conspiracies. I do believe that we (generalaviation) are subject to attack due to misperceptions. Yes, it is true thatpoor people cannot afford to fly. This is extrapolated to say that only the richfly. Obviously not true to those in aviation. Almost everyone I know in aviation ismiddle class. Instead of having a Bass boat, RV motorcoach, vacation house, BigSUV, New cars, or Big house they decide to own an airplane. We do a lot of workon our old airplanes and often own planes in groups in order to lower ourcosts. However, the public perception that "only the rich fly" Makes us an easy targetfor political gain. If they are rich then it will be OK to tax/regulate them.And if they can't afford to do it then so what if a rich guy can't fly, serveshim right. Besides this improves our security right? I have seen at least 3 instances where people were using security against terrorismas an excuse to stop someone from doing innocent personal flying. I don'tlike them flying over my house on a weekend while I am BBQing. Not really a conspiricybut we are easy targets and noone wants to defend us unless prodded.----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:36 am

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Retraction, EAA and AOPAYea, and the one that takes the cake of them all, is Mayor Daley plowing up Meigs field in the middle of the night, because it "could be a launching pad" for those pesky little terrorist planes filled with TNT that would plow into all the downtown buildings. I guess the terrorists would be too stupid to figure out that they could easily make it to Chicago taking off from one of the many other surrounding airports. In addition, he is still lobbying FAA to create one of those idiotic "no fly zones" like they have over Disney World. I wonder how much $ was slipped into reelection campaign funds in order to get that one through! Follow the money! Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:25:42 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:19 pm

Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:38 pm

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller