Original Posted By: "skellytownflyer"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: wood strutsThanks Jim,It was Wil Graf's Piet I made reference. IF the max gross is 1400 lbs, 4 lift struts with juries, 4 cabanes..That fiqures about 175 lbs tension on each.Surely wood struts could carry that load. I strongly considered wood struts on my first Piet until I discovered a find of new material being disposed.**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exer ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: fabric over aluminum
Pietenpol-List: fabric over aluminum
Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
I am making progress covering the ailerons and will start the wings next.I willof course glue the centerline of the aluminum leading edge wrap but is it betterto just clean the rest of the aluminum with MEK and leave it dry or coat itwith poly-brush? I have run into problems with pinholes in the past in thatarea.RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:49:57 -0800 (PST)
I am making progress covering the ailerons and will start the wings next.I willof course glue the centerline of the aluminum leading edge wrap but is it betterto just clean the rest of the aluminum with MEK and leave it dry or coat itwith poly-brush? I have run into problems with pinholes in the past in thatarea.RaymondRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:49:57 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: fabric over aluminum
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: fabric over aluminum
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: fabric over aluminum
Original Posted By: "jimd"
I covered a 1/3 scale Stearman with the lightest grade of stitts fabric. For paint I used primer over the tapes then another coat thinned down with water sprayed on to get an even white. After that I sprayed the water thinned blue and yellow. The final coat was polyurothane over the top. The engine is a 4 stroke 250cc radial and it sprays allot of oil mist and it all wipes off OK.Scott----- Original Message -----
I covered a 1/3 scale Stearman with the lightest grade of stitts fabric. For paint I used primer over the tapes then another coat thinned down with water sprayed on to get an even white. After that I sprayed the water thinned blue and yellow. The final coat was polyurothane over the top. The engine is a 4 stroke 250cc radial and it sprays allot of oil mist and it all wipes off OK.Scott----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Introduction
Original Posted By: Bryan Lowe
Bryan,Welcome to the list. Just couple points about supersizing. I'm the same size you are and I fit, it's kinda cozy but works fine. My buddy who flies the plane sometimes is over 300 lbs, two axe handles wide at the shoulders, he gets in but has hard time with his beer belly and the controls, but makes it ok. First tip: simply make the fuselage more eggshaped from front to back, no problem. Give yourself 4-6 more inches between the top longerons, egg shaped planes like the Questar fly just fine. Tip 2: don't under power. I have a lycosaur o-235 with 108 hp. Get good with CG calulations. Your weight behind the CG will offset a lot of weight in front of the firewall. You are not going to go overgross with the Piete unless you pack a 200 lb passenger, that ain't gonna happen considering the size of the front seat. Sooo make your seat nice and wide at the shoulders, get enough of a powerplant so you aren't sweating the liftoff and enjoy.GordonN-1033B ----- Original Message -----
Bryan,Welcome to the list. Just couple points about supersizing. I'm the same size you are and I fit, it's kinda cozy but works fine. My buddy who flies the plane sometimes is over 300 lbs, two axe handles wide at the shoulders, he gets in but has hard time with his beer belly and the controls, but makes it ok. First tip: simply make the fuselage more eggshaped from front to back, no problem. Give yourself 4-6 more inches between the top longerons, egg shaped planes like the Questar fly just fine. Tip 2: don't under power. I have a lycosaur o-235 with 108 hp. Get good with CG calulations. Your weight behind the CG will offset a lot of weight in front of the firewall. You are not going to go overgross with the Piete unless you pack a 200 lb passenger, that ain't gonna happen considering the size of the front seat. Sooo make your seat nice and wide at the shoulders, get enough of a powerplant so you aren't sweating the liftoff and enjoy.GordonN-1033B ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie Introduction
Original Posted By: _Bryan Lowe_ (mailto:kingfm(at)yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie IntroductionBryan,During my initial build considerations although not too tall much of my vertical has gone horizontal so I decided to find out just what I needed in a Piet. I tried on two of the stock sizes and found them a bit of a challenge toget in and out of. From that brief yet primitive research period I decided to go as a long fuse, wide body model. My build is at 27" inside dimension with an overall 29" wide. I still haven't tried mine on for size but I can assure you I'll need much less a shoe horn to get into it, even though that's really not the issue. Onceyou get into it the real question become can you get out of it? That all remains to be seen. Even if I achieve a good fit with my wide glide I still wanted a bit more room for those colder days when additional clothing became anice option that could be exercised as a pilot option rather than the greasedcockpit entrance and exit preparation.I suppose one has to keep in mind that Bernie designed and built the every mans airplane, except every man back then, was shorter, narrower and weighed much less especially in and during the depression everybody weighed less. Nowadays every man is a bit larger in both directions so one has to consider thatfactor also. You can obviously follow the recommendation of Tony Bengalis and build a mock up out of scrap lumber to see how ya fit and what ya need todo or you can just go and try a few on for size.If your ever in Pennsylvania I would be sure to let you try mine on for size. Till then, Keep on Gluing!John RecineLititz, PANX895BPIn a message dated 1/8/2008 3:35:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca writes:Well, If you don't mind a two hour drive to VancouverAnd a trip through the border you can check out mine.At 5' 8" I'm a little shorter than you but you might get someinsight into ways and means.Nothing says you can't make up a set of foot pedals a footforward of normal for instance.Clif_CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca_ (mailto:CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca) ----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Newbie IntroductionBryan,During my initial build considerations although not too tall much of my vertical has gone horizontal so I decided to find out just what I needed in a Piet. I tried on two of the stock sizes and found them a bit of a challenge toget in and out of. From that brief yet primitive research period I decided to go as a long fuse, wide body model. My build is at 27" inside dimension with an overall 29" wide. I still haven't tried mine on for size but I can assure you I'll need much less a shoe horn to get into it, even though that's really not the issue. Onceyou get into it the real question become can you get out of it? That all remains to be seen. Even if I achieve a good fit with my wide glide I still wanted a bit more room for those colder days when additional clothing became anice option that could be exercised as a pilot option rather than the greasedcockpit entrance and exit preparation.I suppose one has to keep in mind that Bernie designed and built the every mans airplane, except every man back then, was shorter, narrower and weighed much less especially in and during the depression everybody weighed less. Nowadays every man is a bit larger in both directions so one has to consider thatfactor also. You can obviously follow the recommendation of Tony Bengalis and build a mock up out of scrap lumber to see how ya fit and what ya need todo or you can just go and try a few on for size.If your ever in Pennsylvania I would be sure to let you try mine on for size. Till then, Keep on Gluing!John RecineLititz, PANX895BPIn a message dated 1/8/2008 3:35:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca writes:Well, If you don't mind a two hour drive to VancouverAnd a trip through the border you can check out mine.At 5' 8" I'm a little shorter than you but you might get someinsight into ways and means.Nothing says you can't make up a set of foot pedals a footforward of normal for instance.Clif_CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca_ (mailto:CDAWSON5854(at)shaw.ca) ----- Original Message -----