Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?> > Went through all my plans for the GN-1, Pietenpol Aerial, and JN-> 4. None of them have anything for windshields. Anyone have a > template or drawing with dimensions for windshields? Want to keep > it fairly simple and light, I tend to make things stout and heavy.> > Been looking at other plane forums (especially biplanes since they > tend to have same kind of windshields) and haven't found anything.> > Lots of pictures on westcoastpiet site, helps but right technical > drawing would be so much better.> > Jim> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 694#156694> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?
Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?
Original Posted By: "jimd"
I did some research on latex and found that people have been using it at leastfor 10 yrs, probably twice that on airplanes. Looked in to what was best and founda few recommendations;100% Exterior Acrylic LatexValspar was rated best kindRecommendation that first coats are brushed on, later ones can be sprayed, evenwith HVLP, but need to dilute with windshield wiper fluid and Floetrol.Kind of sandpaper used to sand between later coats made a big difference.Lot of other recommendations, but based on what I read I went to Lowes intendingto pick up a quart of Valspar to experiment with. Took red and white samples,ended up getting a gallon of their best stuff, custom mixed to match my Aero-Thanered and white, for $11.70 a gallon (they were out of quart base and gaveme quart price on gallons..) anyway even with everything else I bought to doexperiments, I doubt I spend $300 for covering the wings. (Most of it will gofor EkoBond, as I already had fabric/tape/needles/rib stitching lace/etc.).Bought my daughter a EyeClops toy video-microscope thing for Christmas, and foundit is really good for looking at things like you would a regular microsope.Plan on making up test frames with fabric and testing between using brushes/rollers/normalspray/HVLP with all kinds of variations to figure out what worksbest for finishing the fabric. The EyeClops thing will make it easy to see detailsof how well the latex is penetrating the fabric, how smooth it is, thatsort of thing. Will be a while, but if it works out I will put some pics and findingson the list here.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?
I did some research on latex and found that people have been using it at leastfor 10 yrs, probably twice that on airplanes. Looked in to what was best and founda few recommendations;100% Exterior Acrylic LatexValspar was rated best kindRecommendation that first coats are brushed on, later ones can be sprayed, evenwith HVLP, but need to dilute with windshield wiper fluid and Floetrol.Kind of sandpaper used to sand between later coats made a big difference.Lot of other recommendations, but based on what I read I went to Lowes intendingto pick up a quart of Valspar to experiment with. Took red and white samples,ended up getting a gallon of their best stuff, custom mixed to match my Aero-Thanered and white, for $11.70 a gallon (they were out of quart base and gaveme quart price on gallons..) anyway even with everything else I bought to doexperiments, I doubt I spend $300 for covering the wings. (Most of it will gofor EkoBond, as I already had fabric/tape/needles/rib stitching lace/etc.).Bought my daughter a EyeClops toy video-microscope thing for Christmas, and foundit is really good for looking at things like you would a regular microsope.Plan on making up test frames with fabric and testing between using brushes/rollers/normalspray/HVLP with all kinds of variations to figure out what worksbest for finishing the fabric. The EyeClops thing will make it easy to see detailsof how well the latex is penetrating the fabric, how smooth it is, thatsort of thing. Will be a while, but if it works out I will put some pics and findingson the list here.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?
Original Posted By: "jbveazey.7ok(at)netzero.net"
Went through all my plans for the GN-1, Pietenpol Aerial, and JN-4. None of themhave anything for windshields. Anyone have a template or drawing with dimensionsfor windshields? Want to keep it fairly simple and light, I tend to makethings stout and heavy.Been looking at other plane forums (especially biplanes since they tend to havesame kind of windshields) and haven't found anything.Lots of pictures on westcoastpiet site, helps but right technical drawing wouldbe so much better.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Went through all my plans for the GN-1, Pietenpol Aerial, and JN-4. None of themhave anything for windshields. Anyone have a template or drawing with dimensionsfor windshields? Want to keep it fairly simple and light, I tend to makethings stout and heavy.Been looking at other plane forums (especially biplanes since they tend to havesame kind of windshields) and haven't found anything.Lots of pictures on westcoastpiet site, helps but right technical drawing wouldbe so much better.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?
Original Posted By: jimd
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?Just some thots on Plex. I used a lot of it as a Museum Curator. It will obviously flex according to the thickness. We often heated it with a wire heater or even a really hot heat gun and bent it.Perhaps you could bend the ends if needed to attach it to something. Bendingit this way is not a precise technique. you simply heat it till it is right andbend it til it looks about right. Not machine shop precision. but the remainingflex helps it be forgiving.You can make really custom shaped object, IE a Clear sectional holder or some such.It scratches pretty easy but it also polishes out .We used Spray furnature polish to clean it. I use that on my Bonanza today. Itwill soak off a bug pretty well. The quality of the cloth is VERY important. SoftClean cotton is best.You can drill holes pretty easy as long as you don't get too near the edge. It will burn and melt if you get it too hot while cutting it or drilling it. Ifyou get it too hot with the heat gun it will bubble.Like aluminium, it will become more rigid as it gets bends. The price is directly tied to the cost of oil. just a lurker who likes piets (perhaps when the kids are out of school?)Steve Dortch1948 BonanzaSan Antonio----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Any windshield templates?Just some thots on Plex. I used a lot of it as a Museum Curator. It will obviously flex according to the thickness. We often heated it with a wire heater or even a really hot heat gun and bent it.Perhaps you could bend the ends if needed to attach it to something. Bendingit this way is not a precise technique. you simply heat it till it is right andbend it til it looks about right. Not machine shop precision. but the remainingflex helps it be forgiving.You can make really custom shaped object, IE a Clear sectional holder or some such.It scratches pretty easy but it also polishes out .We used Spray furnature polish to clean it. I use that on my Bonanza today. Itwill soak off a bug pretty well. The quality of the cloth is VERY important. SoftClean cotton is best.You can drill holes pretty easy as long as you don't get too near the edge. It will burn and melt if you get it too hot while cutting it or drilling it. Ifyou get it too hot with the heat gun it will bubble.Like aluminium, it will become more rigid as it gets bends. The price is directly tied to the cost of oil. just a lurker who likes piets (perhaps when the kids are out of school?)Steve Dortch1948 BonanzaSan Antonio----- Original Message -----