Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Hi all,Just a quick note... we're coming up on the Valkaria Air Fest on Saturday,Feb. 16th at Valkaria Airport (X59 in Central Florida, between Melbourne andVero Beach). All pilots and aircraft are invited, and we especiallyencourage owners of Pietenpols and other "interesting" aircraft to attendregardless of what type they are. We'll have everything from PPCs tohelicopters to warbirds to VLJ's on display and doing flybys throughout theday. We will also have two airshows (lunchtime and sunset) with John Blackand Gene McNeely doing acro, balloon glow, P-51 demos, and skydiving as wellas T-6 and 2-passenger PT-17 rides being available all day.The part I think is probably the coolest is our "History Hangar" where we'llhave no less than TEN original Tuskegee Airmen, and over a dozen othernotable and legendary aviation heroes available to meet and talk with. Thelist includes fighter legend Boots Blesse (featured on "Dogfights" and theauthor of "No Guts, No Glory"), B-29 commander and former US CongressmanBruce Alger, Aeroshell T-6 performer Gene McNeely, and many othersfascinating folks ranging from WAFs to WW2 Me-109 pilots to SR-71 drivers. Ithink this will be really unique and a rare chance to meet some true heroes,don't miss it!We'll have a pancake breakfast going from 7-11am and other food vendorsavailable all day long. This is a great chance to enjoy a low-key, fun airfestival / aviation day at a small airport and help show the public the joyof recreational aviation.You are all invited! If you're interested, visit our website for full infoand flyers you can pass along to other intersted parties:http://www.ValkariaAirFest.org/Thanks, and hope to see some of you guys and gals there!-MikeMike WhaleyValkaria Air Fest 2008 Executive CommitteeJoin us at the Valkaria Air Fest at X59 on Feb. 16, 2008!Web: ValkariaAirFest.orgEmail: info(at)ValkariaAirFest.org________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:58:38 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Attn: Florida Pieters - Valkaria Air Fest (X59) on 2/16/08
Re: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: "Brian Kraut"
Ken,I can't answer your question but I have a few for you. What aluminum did you use and where did you get it and how many gallons will your tank hold? I was going to use 5052 for my 17 gal tank but it will cost a bundle to ship a 4 X 8 sheet as everyone wants to ship it flat. My local supplier suggested I use 6061, which he has in stock but I don't have any information on how it will hold up as a fuel tank. I'm contacting my A & P this morning to see what he says.ThanksGene------------------------------------------------------------------------------2/6/2008 9:13 AM________________________________________________________________________________
Ken,I can't answer your question but I have a few for you. What aluminum did you use and where did you get it and how many gallons will your tank hold? I was going to use 5052 for my 17 gal tank but it will cost a bundle to ship a 4 X 8 sheet as everyone wants to ship it flat. My local supplier suggested I use 6061, which he has in stock but I don't have any information on how it will hold up as a fuel tank. I'm contacting my A & P this morning to see what he says.ThanksGene------------------------------------------------------------------------------2/6/2008 9:13 AM________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I welded up a tank with the Spruce filler just like you are describing. Iam going to a Piper sight gauge just like the one in my Pacer. Wag Aerosells them. Here is the linkhttp://store.wagaero.com/product_info.php?products_id'. It screws into awelded on pipe thread flange on the bottom of the tank.Brian KrautEngineering Alternatives, Inc.www.engalt.com -----Original Message-----
I welded up a tank with the Spruce filler just like you are describing. Iam going to a Piper sight gauge just like the one in my Pacer. Wag Aerosells them. Here is the linkhttp://store.wagaero.com/product_info.php?products_id'. It screws into awelded on pipe thread flange on the bottom of the tank.Brian KrautEngineering Alternatives, Inc.www.engalt.com -----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
An obvious question would be why not just order a sheet cut into 2' X 4'pieces shipped UPS?When I need 5052 I get it from a local sheet metal/welding shop. They havelots of 5052 in stock. I recommend going through your yellow pages undersheet metal or welding and seeing if there is a local place that has it.Although, I don't think that there is any problem using 6061 for the tank.Also check http://www.krnet.org/wingtank/ for an alternative method usingthinner sheet metal and rivited construction.Brian KrautEngineering Alternatives, Inc.www.engalt.com -----Original Message-----
An obvious question would be why not just order a sheet cut into 2' X 4'pieces shipped UPS?When I need 5052 I get it from a local sheet metal/welding shop. They havelots of 5052 in stock. I recommend going through your yellow pages undersheet metal or welding and seeing if there is a local place that has it.Although, I don't think that there is any problem using 6061 for the tank.Also check http://www.krnet.org/wingtank/ for an alternative method usingthinner sheet metal and rivited construction.Brian KrautEngineering Alternatives, Inc.www.engalt.com -----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Aircraft Spruce has what they refer to as "Stearman type" fuel sight gauges,but the description says for 8" tank depth (a bit more than your typicalPietenpol wing thickness). As I remember from a previous discussion on theList a few years ago, they used to carry a shorter version, but discontinuedthem. Is the Wag-Aero the shorter version? Anybody? Wag-Aero's onlinedescription is a bit lacking (as is the image).Here's a link to the Aircraft Spruce & Specialty website. (Do you thinkanyone at Aircraft Spruce ever gave any thought to people shortening theirname to just the initials like I just typed, then backspaced and typed outthe name in full because it just doesn't look right?)http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... on.phpAlso, a couple of years ago, there was some discussion here on the list whenMax Davis was working on having a limited production run of some really coolwing tank fuel gauges made by a gauge manufacturer, and got as far as aprototype before the manufacturer backed out (at least that what my brainremembers). Too bad, they would have been really nice, with a dial indicatorthat would only protrude an inch or so below the tank (photos atmykitplane.com in Max's photoshttp://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay. ... %20022.jpg &PhotoID=2583 .Bill C. _____
Aircraft Spruce has what they refer to as "Stearman type" fuel sight gauges,but the description says for 8" tank depth (a bit more than your typicalPietenpol wing thickness). As I remember from a previous discussion on theList a few years ago, they used to carry a shorter version, but discontinuedthem. Is the Wag-Aero the shorter version? Anybody? Wag-Aero's onlinedescription is a bit lacking (as is the image).Here's a link to the Aircraft Spruce & Specialty website. (Do you thinkanyone at Aircraft Spruce ever gave any thought to people shortening theirname to just the initials like I just typed, then backspaced and typed outthe name in full because it just doesn't look right?)http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/i ... on.phpAlso, a couple of years ago, there was some discussion here on the list whenMax Davis was working on having a limited production run of some really coolwing tank fuel gauges made by a gauge manufacturer, and got as far as aprototype before the manufacturer backed out (at least that what my brainremembers). Too bad, they would have been really nice, with a dial indicatorthat would only protrude an inch or so below the tank (photos atmykitplane.com in Max's photoshttp://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoDisplay. ... %20022.jpg &PhotoID=2583 .Bill C. _____
Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: "Jack T. Textor"
Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
The one that Wag sells is for about a 6" tank. You can cut off the end ofthe wire that hangs in the glass tube and paint marks on the tube to make itaccurate for shorter tanks. It screws in a 1/4" NPT pipe thread.Brian KrautEngineering Alternatives, Inc.www.engalt.com -----Original Message-----
The one that Wag sells is for about a 6" tank. You can cut off the end ofthe wire that hangs in the glass tube and paint marks on the tube to make itaccurate for shorter tanks. It screws in a 1/4" NPT pipe thread.Brian KrautEngineering Alternatives, Inc.www.engalt.com -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
There's also the fuel sight gauge that's mounted on top of the wing likeused in the DeHavilland Moths. Not sure if it is a cork on a rod that slidesup and down, or if it's on a lever with a crank.Bill C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
There's also the fuel sight gauge that's mounted on top of the wing likeused in the DeHavilland Moths. Not sure if it is a cork on a rod that slidesup and down, or if it's on a lever with a crank.Bill C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire sizeThanks for your help, Don. By the way, has anyone ever ordered from Robert at Airdrome Aeroplanes? Seems they have fairly decent prices for ready made stuff.RonIn a message dated 2/6/2008 11:03:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, EmchAir(at)aol.com writes:Ron,Yeah, I just made a large "washer" i guess you could say that I wrapped the fabric around then placed it over the center of the hub. I used plywood but something like thin aluminum would work nice too I suppose. They are Cheng Shinn 3.25 / 3.60 S19 tires. I'm not exactly sure of the rim size other than19". What ever size it would need to be for that size tire. I remember it didn't make much sense to me as to why it would use that size tire. But thena lot of things don't always make sense to me!Good luck with the wheels!Don**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire sizeThanks for your help, Don. By the way, has anyone ever ordered from Robert at Airdrome Aeroplanes? Seems they have fairly decent prices for ready made stuff.RonIn a message dated 2/6/2008 11:03:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, EmchAir(at)aol.com writes:Ron,Yeah, I just made a large "washer" i guess you could say that I wrapped the fabric around then placed it over the center of the hub. I used plywood but something like thin aluminum would work nice too I suppose. They are Cheng Shinn 3.25 / 3.60 S19 tires. I'm not exactly sure of the rim size other than19". What ever size it would need to be for that size tire. I remember it didn't make much sense to me as to why it would use that size tire. But thena lot of things don't always make sense to me!Good luck with the wheels!Don**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________
Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
Ron those wheels at Airdrome Aeroplanes look really nice. They really aren't veryhard to make. They can be made without the use of a lathe if you are creative.However, the price that he has listed is pretty good. He definately isn'tgetting rich on them!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:09:58 -0800 (PST)
Ron those wheels at Airdrome Aeroplanes look really nice. They really aren't veryhard to make. They can be made without the use of a lathe if you are creative.However, the price that he has listed is pretty good. He definately isn'tgetting rich on them!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:09:58 -0800 (PST)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Header tank help..
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
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