Original Posted By: Tim Willis
Welcome Ken! Looking forward to hearing about your progress.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:08:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Re: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Re: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Wow Ken! You're on your way!It seems like many of us follow the same path of plotting and thinking about it for years before goin for it. Congrats!MarkMark RobertsOn Jul 6, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Ken Howe wrote:>>> Hi All,>> This is my first post to the list, but many of you seem like old > friends> already. I've been subscribed for a couple of years, which is when I > got my> 2nd set (more about that later) of Pietenpol plans from Don P. Two > or three> months ago I decided it was time to stop thinking about it and just > start> building. My plan is to not have a plan. That is there is no > schedule or> expectation as to when I'll complete this project. As others have > said, my> enjoyment will come from building, making big sticks of wood into > little> sticks of wood then into airplane parts and finally a flying > machine! When> I can afford to buy raw materials, I'll get enough to make > something, then> get busy until that part is done. It'll cost more in the end this > way, but> that cost will be spread out pretty thin in the end.>> About MY Pietenpol: My current thinking about how/what I'll build.> Long fuselage - I'll rake the seat back 2-4" for comfort. I'll know > more> after I build a mock-pit. The fuse width will also depend on how I > fit into> the plans build mock-up.>> 3-piece wing, Riblett 63-012 airfoil.>> Engine is undecided. Maybe a C-85?>> Add-ons: (I know, extra weight)> I'm considering the Keri-Ann Price passenger door to make it more > friendly> for those time when I have a companion.>> Enough radios to enable me to fly comfortably in today's airspace.>> Probably lights - not necessarily so I can fly at night, but to make > myself> more visible.>> About me. I've been an EAA member since 1969 (in high school). I first> start taking flying lessons the summer between high school and > college. But> then I went to college and never finished lessons when life got in > the way.> I first got interested in the Piet in '74 and bought a set of plans > from> Mr. Pietenpol (that was the first set). At that time I was newly > married> and in the Air Force. I figured I'd start building something when I > settled> down. During one of my Air Force moves my set of plans was lost. I > guess> one moving box was lost, and the only thing that I ever missed was > my Piet> plans. To this day I have no idea what else was in that box. With > kids on> their own (or nearly so) I finally went to finish my flying lessons, > and 36> years after I started, I became a private pilot.>> I have a degree in Aerospace Engineering, but have made my career in> software development. I've been writing s/w since '78, soon after I > got out> of the service. Being an engineer, I'm always looking at things and> thinking about other ways of making them. So I will make changes > from the> Piet plans as I build. I hope my changes will be well thought out > and not> arbitrary, and definitely not purely for asthetics. I'm a firm > believer in> Frank Lloyd Wright's principal of "Form follows function". I also > believe> in the KISS principle. I also expect learn from what others have > done in> building their Piets.>> My building progress. First of all I'm trying to take lots of > pictures and> fully document my build. At some point I'll put a a blog on my > website, and> soon I'll post a few pictures here, particularly since there's been > such> and active Riblett discussion lately. I finished my rib jig almost 2 > months> ago, but have been busy with work and family since then. I had a small> crate of spruce from an abort project long ago (I was going to build a> PDQ-2). The wood has been kept in the crate, and when I opened it up > was in> perfect condition. There's more than enough there for all of my > ribs. Over> the holiday weekend I finished cutting all of the rib truss pieces, > so last> evening I glued up the 1st side of the 1st rib! (Point of reference > - I> bought a small supply of T-88 from Woodcraft Supply, a local > woodworker's> store.)>> Well, that's enough for now. Pictures soon, as well as a slew of > questions.>> Ken Howe> Beaverton, OR>>________________________________________________________________________________
Wow Ken! You're on your way!It seems like many of us follow the same path of plotting and thinking about it for years before goin for it. Congrats!MarkMark RobertsOn Jul 6, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Ken Howe wrote:>>> Hi All,>> This is my first post to the list, but many of you seem like old > friends> already. I've been subscribed for a couple of years, which is when I > got my> 2nd set (more about that later) of Pietenpol plans from Don P. Two > or three> months ago I decided it was time to stop thinking about it and just > start> building. My plan is to not have a plan. That is there is no > schedule or> expectation as to when I'll complete this project. As others have > said, my> enjoyment will come from building, making big sticks of wood into > little> sticks of wood then into airplane parts and finally a flying > machine! When> I can afford to buy raw materials, I'll get enough to make > something, then> get busy until that part is done. It'll cost more in the end this > way, but> that cost will be spread out pretty thin in the end.>> About MY Pietenpol: My current thinking about how/what I'll build.> Long fuselage - I'll rake the seat back 2-4" for comfort. I'll know > more> after I build a mock-pit. The fuse width will also depend on how I > fit into> the plans build mock-up.>> 3-piece wing, Riblett 63-012 airfoil.>> Engine is undecided. Maybe a C-85?>> Add-ons: (I know, extra weight)> I'm considering the Keri-Ann Price passenger door to make it more > friendly> for those time when I have a companion.>> Enough radios to enable me to fly comfortably in today's airspace.>> Probably lights - not necessarily so I can fly at night, but to make > myself> more visible.>> About me. I've been an EAA member since 1969 (in high school). I first> start taking flying lessons the summer between high school and > college. But> then I went to college and never finished lessons when life got in > the way.> I first got interested in the Piet in '74 and bought a set of plans > from> Mr. Pietenpol (that was the first set). At that time I was newly > married> and in the Air Force. I figured I'd start building something when I > settled> down. During one of my Air Force moves my set of plans was lost. I > guess> one moving box was lost, and the only thing that I ever missed was > my Piet> plans. To this day I have no idea what else was in that box. With > kids on> their own (or nearly so) I finally went to finish my flying lessons, > and 36> years after I started, I became a private pilot.>> I have a degree in Aerospace Engineering, but have made my career in> software development. I've been writing s/w since '78, soon after I > got out> of the service. Being an engineer, I'm always looking at things and> thinking about other ways of making them. So I will make changes > from the> Piet plans as I build. I hope my changes will be well thought out > and not> arbitrary, and definitely not purely for asthetics. I'm a firm > believer in> Frank Lloyd Wright's principal of "Form follows function". I also > believe> in the KISS principle. I also expect learn from what others have > done in> building their Piets.>> My building progress. First of all I'm trying to take lots of > pictures and> fully document my build. At some point I'll put a a blog on my > website, and> soon I'll post a few pictures here, particularly since there's been > such> and active Riblett discussion lately. I finished my rib jig almost 2 > months> ago, but have been busy with work and family since then. I had a small> crate of spruce from an abort project long ago (I was going to build a> PDQ-2). The wood has been kept in the crate, and when I opened it up > was in> perfect condition. There's more than enough there for all of my > ribs. Over> the holiday weekend I finished cutting all of the rib truss pieces, > so last> evening I glued up the 1st side of the 1st rib! (Point of reference > - I> bought a small supply of T-88 from Woodcraft Supply, a local > woodworker's> store.)>> Well, that's enough for now. Pictures soon, as well as a slew of > questions.>> Ken Howe> Beaverton, OR>>________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: "Ken Howe"
Hi KenI didn't see if you are planning on attending Brodhead. If so, You can do a trial fit in my plane and I'll tell you about the mods I made for a comfortable fit. I'm sure others will do the same.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Hi KenI didn't see if you are planning on attending Brodhead. If so, You can do a trial fit in my plane and I'll tell you about the mods I made for a comfortable fit. I'm sure others will do the same.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Alright John... let's not get Ken started on the wrong foot... errr, wing... whatever.Some of our wives actually LIKE our airplanes. Mine is genuinely lookingforward to Brodhead. She also wants to help, specifically on the enginerebuild, and is looking forward to a ride one day. I know it's hard to believe... but I'm sure there are others out there. Maybemine will grow tired of the idea at some point, but she was on board at the beginningand I'll hold her to it if necessary. So far, she's enjoying the adventuretoo. Hamburgers, drawings, beer, tools, airplanes, hamburgers, sawdust,beer, fly-ins, hamburgers, beer, airplane rides, pancakes, airports, hot dogs,beer... what's not to like?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Alright John... let's not get Ken started on the wrong foot... errr, wing... whatever.Some of our wives actually LIKE our airplanes. Mine is genuinely lookingforward to Brodhead. She also wants to help, specifically on the enginerebuild, and is looking forward to a ride one day. I know it's hard to believe... but I'm sure there are others out there. Maybemine will grow tired of the idea at some point, but she was on board at the beginningand I'll hold her to it if necessary. So far, she's enjoying the adventuretoo. Hamburgers, drawings, beer, tools, airplanes, hamburgers, sawdust,beer, fly-ins, hamburgers, beer, airplane rides, pancakes, airports, hot dogs,beer... what's not to like?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An IntroductionWhy will her clothes fly off? mine don't fly off when I am up there. Definitely not worth archivingJohn**************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An IntroductionWhy will her clothes fly off? mine don't fly off when I am up there. Definitely not worth archivingJohn**************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: A Little Off Topic
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A Little Off TopicYou got no negative comments form me, the frosty cold was the best.Thanks againJohn**************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A Little Off TopicYou got no negative comments form me, the frosty cold was the best.Thanks againJohn**************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Ha ha! Yes, I am making my first trip to Brodhead this year. I'll be lookingfor you Mike.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Ha ha! Yes, I am making my first trip to Brodhead this year. I'll be lookingfor you Mike.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Amsafetyc wrote:> Did you say beer?> > John> ---> > > K5YAC says> > and hamburgers!--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Amsafetyc wrote:> Did you say beer?> > John> ---> > > K5YAC says> > and hamburgers!--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: New builder: An Introduction
Original Posted By: Ken Howe
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > "RIB CAPS: I was AMAZED to see a few minutes ago that on the ORIGINAL Piet drawings for the rib (dated 3-3-34) there are NO rib caps at all=2C front or rear of either spar. However=2C I believe everyone builds with several rib caps-- at least the two inner ones. Somewhere in the Piet drawings I recall=2C but cannot now find=2C an "improved rib drawing." On my ribs there is a front rib cap=2C as you call it=2C for both the front and rear spar. My ribs do NOT have a rear rib cap. Looking at pictures of other builds=2C I see that a few guys have only inner rib caps=2C while some have a front rib cap=2C and some apparently have all four rib caps. IMO=2C you will need at least the two inner rib caps to have a more solid build than a pure reliance upon compression struts engenders. "> I'm lost as to what you are saying here=3B did you intend to say inner bracing instead of caps? In a built-up rib=2C I can't see how one could have a rib=2C at all=2C without a rib cap strip.> > Will> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 711#251711> > > > > > > ============================================> > > _________________________________________________________________Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choose ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An IntroductionDate: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:56:23 -0600
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > "RIB CAPS: I was AMAZED to see a few minutes ago that on the ORIGINAL Piet drawings for the rib (dated 3-3-34) there are NO rib caps at all=2C front or rear of either spar. However=2C I believe everyone builds with several rib caps-- at least the two inner ones. Somewhere in the Piet drawings I recall=2C but cannot now find=2C an "improved rib drawing." On my ribs there is a front rib cap=2C as you call it=2C for both the front and rear spar. My ribs do NOT have a rear rib cap. Looking at pictures of other builds=2C I see that a few guys have only inner rib caps=2C while some have a front rib cap=2C and some apparently have all four rib caps. IMO=2C you will need at least the two inner rib caps to have a more solid build than a pure reliance upon compression struts engenders. "> I'm lost as to what you are saying here=3B did you intend to say inner bracing instead of caps? In a built-up rib=2C I can't see how one could have a rib=2C at all=2C without a rib cap strip.> > Will> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 711#251711> > > > > > > ============================================> > > _________________________________________________________________Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choose ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: New builder: An IntroductionDate: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:56:23 -0600