Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
et>Mike, a serious question and an observation.- Why was the 2" higher seat dumb-- was it more wind on the pilot on cool days?- I would think the seat would be more comfortable, esp. lessening pulling on the back of the legs, but maybe more height makes the instruments harder to read, unless the panel is slanted.- Pls reply.- I live about 100 miles north of Oscar, and wore long pants outside 6 days last winter.- Winter is a non-event.- OTOH, we just had the hottest summer in Texas history-- period.- The 100F plus days may be over, but the 10-day forecast here is for highs of 92-99.- Yes, autumn is coming.- Oscar might start wearing a jacket in his Piet in December.- Tim in central TX-----Original Message----->From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" >Sent: Sep 3, 2009 8:45 AM>To: "pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com" >Subject: Pietenpol-List: stick height-- phone books >ospace Corporation]" >>Oscar-- just sit on a phone book when you're flying and you won't have to modify your>stick height at all.- - My seat is 2" higher than plans (boy was that stupid)>so it feels just about right.--->>You're right about the Coors Light but Jack Phillips good friend Jim Dukeman (an avid, avid Young Eagles coordinator and all round nice guy) came by when John Hofmann, Jack, and I were setting up tents and dinning canopies on a hot afternoon at Oshkosh a month ago and offered us ice (I mean ice cold) cold brews and you know how they say when someone else does the cooking it always tastes better-- same with this scenario.---It was just the right refreshment at just the right time in just the right setting, and I wasn't thinking about work, home chores, car repairs, taking the dogs to the vet, or how my 85 year old mother is doing in Florida.---Life IS GOOD !--->>Mike C. >>And Oscar, FYI, this time of year we call them camp fire side chats.---We'll move the chats indoors about November if that works for you Texans.- - >le, List Admin.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:52:46 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
et>Mike, a serious question and an observation.- Why was the 2" higher seat dumb-- was it more wind on the pilot on cool days?- I would think the seat would be more comfortable, esp. lessening pulling on the back of the legs, but maybe more height makes the instruments harder to read, unless the panel is slanted.- Pls reply.- I live about 100 miles north of Oscar, and wore long pants outside 6 days last winter.- Winter is a non-event.- OTOH, we just had the hottest summer in Texas history-- period.- The 100F plus days may be over, but the 10-day forecast here is for highs of 92-99.- Yes, autumn is coming.- Oscar might start wearing a jacket in his Piet in December.- Tim in central TX-----Original Message----->From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]" >Sent: Sep 3, 2009 8:45 AM>To: "pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com" >Subject: Pietenpol-List: stick height-- phone books >ospace Corporation]" >>Oscar-- just sit on a phone book when you're flying and you won't have to modify your>stick height at all.- - My seat is 2" higher than plans (boy was that stupid)>so it feels just about right.--->>You're right about the Coors Light but Jack Phillips good friend Jim Dukeman (an avid, avid Young Eagles coordinator and all round nice guy) came by when John Hofmann, Jack, and I were setting up tents and dinning canopies on a hot afternoon at Oshkosh a month ago and offered us ice (I mean ice cold) cold brews and you know how they say when someone else does the cooking it always tastes better-- same with this scenario.---It was just the right refreshment at just the right time in just the right setting, and I wasn't thinking about work, home chores, car repairs, taking the dogs to the vet, or how my 85 year old mother is doing in Florida.---Life IS GOOD !--->>Mike C. >>And Oscar, FYI, this time of year we call them camp fire side chats.---We'll move the chats indoors about November if that works for you Texans.- - >le, List Admin.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:52:46 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Handy tool: Dremel Multi-Max Oscillating Tool
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Matt,You need both. As someone pointed out, earlier, there are fittings that getbolted to both sides of the wedge/gusset areas on the fuselage. I surelydon't know Mr. Pientenpol's thoughts, but the wedges appear to be backingfor the gussets, which are for strength. These are in the 4 landing gearareas, only.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(14 ribs down.) _____
Matt,You need both. As someone pointed out, earlier, there are fittings that getbolted to both sides of the wedge/gusset areas on the fuselage. I surelydon't know Mr. Pientenpol's thoughts, but the wedges appear to be backingfor the gussets, which are for strength. These are in the 4 landing gearareas, only.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(14 ribs down.) _____
Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: mdredmond(at)gmail.com
The plans call for gussetts and they work fine.Date: Fri=2C 4 Sep 2009 11:34:05 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
The plans call for gussetts and they work fine.Date: Fri=2C 4 Sep 2009 11:34:05 -0500Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: Matt Redmond
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: RE: Gussets vs. Wedges
RE: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Build it per MIL-T-FD4, A changeJack PhillipsNX899JP _____
Build it per MIL-T-FD4, A changeJack PhillipsNX899JP _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
RE: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. Wedges
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
> I tested a rib, if you look at the old> glider manuals you'll see them sand bagging a rib,> I took a couple of boards and cut them down to the> size of spars, I then took> a rib that I wanted to destroy, gussetts one side only> (not completed) I glued the> rib in the middle of the 3 foot section of fake spars,> I then set both ends> of the fake spar on saw horses, I then added 500> lb's of weight, nothing broke,> I then went to a friend's house and got 500 pounds> of tractor wheel weights> and placed 1000 pounds on the rib, WOW's all I> could think.> this was 3/8 by 1/4 boat grade DF with 1/16 gl-2 birch> gussets.> Most of the cross members didn't even set flush> but gapped filled with raka epoxy> and silica.> > russell ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. WedgesDate: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:11:23 -0400
> I tested a rib, if you look at the old> glider manuals you'll see them sand bagging a rib,> I took a couple of boards and cut them down to the> size of spars, I then took> a rib that I wanted to destroy, gussetts one side only> (not completed) I glued the> rib in the middle of the 3 foot section of fake spars,> I then set both ends> of the fake spar on saw horses, I then added 500> lb's of weight, nothing broke,> I then went to a friend's house and got 500 pounds> of tractor wheel weights> and placed 1000 pounds on the rib, WOW's all I> could think.> this was 3/8 by 1/4 boat grade DF with 1/16 gl-2 birch> gussets.> Most of the cross members didn't even set flush> but gapped filled with raka epoxy> and silica.> > russell ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Gussets vs. WedgesDate: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:11:23 -0400