Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
"Forward visibility is a luxury, not a right.". -meI'm sure you've all seen examples of this on the past, but a few examples come immediately to mind:Laird Super SolutionSpirit of St LouisCorben Super AceMost Taildraggers in the 3-point attitude.Not that I'm suggesting it's a good idea (which it isn't), or even that I like the idea (which I don't), but has anyone ever put a nosewheel on a Piet? I know they've done if on the Champ, the folks who sell the Baby Ace have disfigured their airframe in this manner, and even aviation legend Steve Wittman put a nose gear on a Tailwind, but I don't personally know of anyone who has done this to an Aircamper.Gross...Wayne Bressler Jr.Taildraggers, Inc.taildraggersinc.comSent from the phone that made the Blackberry obsolete.On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Oscar Zuniga wrote:> >>>> Mike wrote:>>> My oldest grandson can't see over the cockpit coaming yet>> so I have a little breathing space.>> All taildragger pilots can tell you that you don't need to> be able to see over the cockpit coaming, and the Ford Piet> guys don't get to see straight ahead any of the time due to> the radiator anyway.>> Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to the list.
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Hello, I am new to this list but looking over the archives I found lots of interestingstuff and I hope this will be a place to get questions answered or at least experiencedopinions. Just a little about myself as a means of introduction. I am an architect by trade and still working as a partial retirement. I haveheld a private license since 1967 and along the way got my instrument and a commercialticket (which I never used). I currently have about 1700 hours in lotsof different airplanes, all single engine and including about 100 hrs in tailwheel . And in the last 20 years have flown just enough to be able to passmy BFR.I am located in upstate NY in the Adirondack Park. I am building or finishingsomeone else's project, a GN-1 Aircamper. Project is 75% done with 75% to go.The project started in Canada and then ended up in Iowa. I have no documentationfrom the original builders who did all the wood work. As I understand itthe plane was part of an estate sale and then passed to someone else in paymentof a debt. I bought it from a person that had done the conversion of a corvairengine and some covering and that documentation wasn't too bad. Good enoughto let me know that I need to do some things over.It has been interesting taking someone else's work and trying to decide if it isOK. When I first started it was overwhelming. I am making headway now, butwith each thing I do I find something else that was done before but does notquit work right based on the way I want things to end up. The GN-1 was heavyand this one is not exception. Wings are done and one is covered. Tail surfaces are done and covered but I havehad to do some remodeling to make new attachment fittings work. I am workingtoward covering the fuselage but to do that I have needed to do preliminary riggingand found some guide blocks mis-located. Because these birds tend to be tail heavy I am going to build a Piet style skidbut with a tail wheel and try to reduce weight at the tail. A friend gave mea used Scott tail wheel but it is way too heavy in my opinion especially hangingback another 12 " beyond the end of the Fues. Building the tail wheel assemblywill put the fuselage covering on hold for a while as I want the mountinghardware in place before covering. Well you get the picture. Apparently Grega is no longer supporting his plans (or his father's plans) soinformation on the GN-1 is scarce. I hope there are some GN-1 builders that frequentthis list that will be willing to share there building experiences.Sorry for being so wordy here, but I thought I would give a little background.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hello, I am new to this list but looking over the archives I found lots of interestingstuff and I hope this will be a place to get questions answered or at least experiencedopinions. Just a little about myself as a means of introduction. I am an architect by trade and still working as a partial retirement. I haveheld a private license since 1967 and along the way got my instrument and a commercialticket (which I never used). I currently have about 1700 hours in lotsof different airplanes, all single engine and including about 100 hrs in tailwheel . And in the last 20 years have flown just enough to be able to passmy BFR.I am located in upstate NY in the Adirondack Park. I am building or finishingsomeone else's project, a GN-1 Aircamper. Project is 75% done with 75% to go.The project started in Canada and then ended up in Iowa. I have no documentationfrom the original builders who did all the wood work. As I understand itthe plane was part of an estate sale and then passed to someone else in paymentof a debt. I bought it from a person that had done the conversion of a corvairengine and some covering and that documentation wasn't too bad. Good enoughto let me know that I need to do some things over.It has been interesting taking someone else's work and trying to decide if it isOK. When I first started it was overwhelming. I am making headway now, butwith each thing I do I find something else that was done before but does notquit work right based on the way I want things to end up. The GN-1 was heavyand this one is not exception. Wings are done and one is covered. Tail surfaces are done and covered but I havehad to do some remodeling to make new attachment fittings work. I am workingtoward covering the fuselage but to do that I have needed to do preliminary riggingand found some guide blocks mis-located. Because these birds tend to be tail heavy I am going to build a Piet style skidbut with a tail wheel and try to reduce weight at the tail. A friend gave mea used Scott tail wheel but it is way too heavy in my opinion especially hangingback another 12 " beyond the end of the Fues. Building the tail wheel assemblywill put the fuselage covering on hold for a while as I want the mountinghardware in place before covering. Well you get the picture. Apparently Grega is no longer supporting his plans (or his father's plans) soinformation on the GN-1 is scarce. I hope there are some GN-1 builders that frequentthis list that will be willing to share there building experiences.Sorry for being so wordy here, but I thought I would give a little background.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Welcome, Jon!! You're at the right place. Are you sure you're 75%, and not51%?Don't forget to consider moving the engine forward, maybe 2"? should helpwith that heavy tail.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Welcome, Jon!! You're at the right place. Are you sure you're 75%, and not51%?Don't forget to consider moving the engine forward, maybe 2"? should helpwith that heavy tail.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair Conversion, mountedTail done, Fuselage on gear(15 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list.
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I REALLY agree with Gary. If you are taking over a project, you will have to review everything that has been done. In looking at work YOU WILL complete more than 51% of the construction.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
I REALLY agree with Gary. If you are taking over a project, you will have to review everything that has been done. In looking at work YOU WILL complete more than 51% of the construction.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
> Pietenpol-List: New to the list.
Original Posted By: Tim Willis
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Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
Welcome, Jon!! You're at the right place. Are you sure you're 75%, and not 51%? I REALLY agree with Gary. If you are taking over a project, you will have to review everything that has been done. In looking at work YOU WILL complete more than 51% of the construction. Gary & Dick,I have discussed this quite a bit with my local EAA and with our local DAR. Allhave encouraged me to really document what I am doing. I believe that withall I am having to redo I will have no problem being designated as the builder.In fact I have gone through the process with FAA and I am now listed on theregistration as the builder. This airplane already had an N-number even thoughit had never flown or been fully assembled. It took some doing to get theprevious builder removed but I got that acomplished. As for the 51% rule, a fellowEAA sent me an exerpt from some FAA documentation and you can use the previousbuilder as well as your own work for compliance with the 51% rule.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to the list.
Welcome, Jon!! You're at the right place. Are you sure you're 75%, and not 51%? I REALLY agree with Gary. If you are taking over a project, you will have to review everything that has been done. In looking at work YOU WILL complete more than 51% of the construction. Gary & Dick,I have discussed this quite a bit with my local EAA and with our local DAR. Allhave encouraged me to really document what I am doing. I believe that withall I am having to redo I will have no problem being designated as the builder.In fact I have gone through the process with FAA and I am now listed on theregistration as the builder. This airplane already had an N-number even thoughit had never flown or been fully assembled. It took some doing to get theprevious builder removed but I got that acomplished. As for the 51% rule, a fellowEAA sent me an exerpt from some FAA documentation and you can use the previousbuilder as well as your own work for compliance with the 51% rule.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to the list.
Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list.
Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
Hi Jon saw your post. I'm rebuilding a GN-1 and putting a corvair on it. Maybe we can share info. E-mail me off list and I'll give you a call this weekend.Bryan GreenElgin SC----- Original Message -----
Hi Jon saw your post. I'm rebuilding a GN-1 and putting a corvair on it. Maybe we can share info. E-mail me off list and I'll give you a call this weekend.Bryan GreenElgin SC----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: New to the list.
Original Posted By: Thomas Bernie
Jon,Welcome to the list. I'm building a Piet but fly a Grega that I bought.Does your project have the plywood sides, pilot seat to tail post, perGrega plans? If so you can loose some weight there. The guys that builtmine cut away most of the ply, leaving about an inch at the uprights anddiagonals and more where the gussets are on the Piet plans.Skip I am working toward covering the fuselage but to do that I have needed todo preliminary rigging and found some guide blocks mis-located. Jon Coxwell________________________________________________________________________________
Jon,Welcome to the list. I'm building a Piet but fly a Grega that I bought.Does your project have the plywood sides, pilot seat to tail post, perGrega plans? If so you can loose some weight there. The guys that builtmine cut away most of the ply, leaving about an inch at the uprights anddiagonals and more where the gussets are on the Piet plans.Skip I am working toward covering the fuselage but to do that I have needed todo preliminary rigging and found some guide blocks mis-located. Jon Coxwell________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "coxwelljon"
Tom,Thank you for posting that link. I found the pictures to be very informative.I am sure that I will be back to the site many times.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to the list.
Tom,Thank you for posting that link. I found the pictures to be very informative.I am sure that I will be back to the site many times.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New to the list.
Original Posted By: "Gene & Tammy"
Skip,I thought about that, but decided against it. All the fairings were in place andthe plywood is so thin. I weighed some pieces and found that I was dealingwith ounces so I decided that it would be a lot of work for very little gain.All of my mounting hardware on the tail was maked for 1/4" bolts instead of3/16" I have remodeled that and where holes were already drilled in the wood,I plugged the holes with hardwood dowels and epoxy and re drilled the holes toa smaller size. .Some were miss placed so this allowed me to get proper alignment.The weight savings for smaller bolts and nuts adds up to quite a few squareinches of plywood. I also am changing the tail wheel design as I mentionedbefore to save some weight.By the way I did check out the archives on weight and balance and found some goodinformation. This list is a good resource.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Skip,I thought about that, but decided against it. All the fairings were in place andthe plywood is so thin. I weighed some pieces and found that I was dealingwith ounces so I decided that it would be a lot of work for very little gain.All of my mounting hardware on the tail was maked for 1/4" bolts instead of3/16" I have remodeled that and where holes were already drilled in the wood,I plugged the holes with hardwood dowels and epoxy and re drilled the holes toa smaller size. .Some were miss placed so this allowed me to get proper alignment.The weight savings for smaller bolts and nuts adds up to quite a few squareinches of plywood. I also am changing the tail wheel design as I mentionedbefore to save some weight.By the way I did check out the archives on weight and balance and found some goodinformation. This list is a good resource.--------Jon CoxwellRecycle and preserve the planetRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________