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Pietenpol-List: lower radiator on Scout
Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
So, we got the cylinder installed and she fired right up and the pressure cameup to 40 on the gauge That was nice. So, we took off, the air temp was a nice80. 10 minutes and the pressure was 35. Ten more and it hit 30. I set up toland, pulled it back to 1300rpm and the pressure dropped to 15. This doesn't lookgood. We park and head for the computer We log on to the mooney mite siteand verify that idle pressure of 10 psi is acceptable. Ok, we go back outsideand I get my excercise for the day, crankin' away. C'mon, ole girl, we're farfrom home and I gotta get back for a family event. Pock-i-ta. Pock-I-ta. Pockitapockitapockitarumblerumblerumble. Ok, good. I wasgetting tired. Thanks for starting. Oil pressure looks good at 35, again. Let's go. 10 more minutes. 30psi. 5 more.28 psi. Hm.... Pull her back to 1300rpm, 15psi again. Land, taxi back and thepressure is at 5psi. Well, ole girl, I'd love to stay and chat but I've gotmiles to go, so let's talk about this again in a few days. During all this the oil temp only got up to 70 on the gauge, and even after welanded it didn't shoot up when the air flow went down, so maybe that gauge orprobe is going bad. But this oil pressure - what do you A65 drivers get during a warm day at cruisespeeds?ThanksDan-- yocum(at)gmail.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
So, we got the cylinder installed and she fired right up and the pressure cameup to 40 on the gauge That was nice. So, we took off, the air temp was a nice80. 10 minutes and the pressure was 35. Ten more and it hit 30. I set up toland, pulled it back to 1300rpm and the pressure dropped to 15. This doesn't lookgood. We park and head for the computer We log on to the mooney mite siteand verify that idle pressure of 10 psi is acceptable. Ok, we go back outsideand I get my excercise for the day, crankin' away. C'mon, ole girl, we're farfrom home and I gotta get back for a family event. Pock-i-ta. Pock-I-ta. Pockitapockitapockitarumblerumblerumble. Ok, good. I wasgetting tired. Thanks for starting. Oil pressure looks good at 35, again. Let's go. 10 more minutes. 30psi. 5 more.28 psi. Hm.... Pull her back to 1300rpm, 15psi again. Land, taxi back and thepressure is at 5psi. Well, ole girl, I'd love to stay and chat but I've gotmiles to go, so let's talk about this again in a few days. During all this the oil temp only got up to 70 on the gauge, and even after welanded it didn't shoot up when the air flow went down, so maybe that gauge orprobe is going bad. But this oil pressure - what do you A65 drivers get during a warm day at cruisespeeds?ThanksDan-- yocum(at)gmail.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Ryan asked what weight oil I use - W100 Plus is the answer. -- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:> > So, we got the cylinder installed and she fired right up and the pressure cameup to 40 on the gauge That was nice. So, we took off, the air temp was a nice80. 10 minutes and the pressure was 35. Ten more and it hit 30. I set up toland, pulled it back to 1300rpm and the pressure dropped to 15. This doesn'tlook good. We park and head for the computer We log on to the mooney mite siteand verify that idle pressure of 10 psi is acceptable. Ok, we go back outsideand I get my excercise for the day, crankin' away. C'mon, ole girl, we're farfrom home and I gotta get back for a family event. > > Pock-i-ta. Pock-I-ta. Pockitapockitapockitarumblerumblerumble. Ok, good. I wasgetting tired. Thanks for starting. > > Oil pressure looks good at 35, again. Let's go. 10 more minutes. 30psi. 5 more.28 psi. Hm.... Pull her back to 1300rpm, 15psi again. Land, taxi back andthe pressure is at 5psi. Well, ole girl, I'd love to stay and chat but I've gotmiles to go, so let's talk about this again in a few days. > > During all this the oil temp only got up to 70 on the gauge, and even after welanded it didn't shoot up when the air flow went down, so maybe that gauge orprobe is going bad. > > But this oil pressure - what do you A65 drivers get during a warm day at cruisespeeds?> > Thanks> Dan> > -- > yocum(at)gmail.com> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:15:24 -0400
Ryan asked what weight oil I use - W100 Plus is the answer. -- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Dan Yocum wrote:> > So, we got the cylinder installed and she fired right up and the pressure cameup to 40 on the gauge That was nice. So, we took off, the air temp was a nice80. 10 minutes and the pressure was 35. Ten more and it hit 30. I set up toland, pulled it back to 1300rpm and the pressure dropped to 15. This doesn'tlook good. We park and head for the computer We log on to the mooney mite siteand verify that idle pressure of 10 psi is acceptable. Ok, we go back outsideand I get my excercise for the day, crankin' away. C'mon, ole girl, we're farfrom home and I gotta get back for a family event. > > Pock-i-ta. Pock-I-ta. Pockitapockitapockitarumblerumblerumble. Ok, good. I wasgetting tired. Thanks for starting. > > Oil pressure looks good at 35, again. Let's go. 10 more minutes. 30psi. 5 more.28 psi. Hm.... Pull her back to 1300rpm, 15psi again. Land, taxi back andthe pressure is at 5psi. Well, ole girl, I'd love to stay and chat but I've gotmiles to go, so let's talk about this again in a few days. > > During all this the oil temp only got up to 70 on the gauge, and even after welanded it didn't shoot up when the air flow went down, so maybe that gauge orprobe is going bad. > > But this oil pressure - what do you A65 drivers get during a warm day at cruisespeeds?> > Thanks> Dan> > -- > yocum(at)gmail.com> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:15:24 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Hmmm... Not good Dan. I know the manual says 10 psi at idle is okay, but theyusually will hold at least 30 psi at idle. Since it's dropping after a few minutesis probably a sign that there is excess clearance at the crank bearingsor in the cam journals. There are some band-aid ideas out there like trying toincrease the pressure at the pressure relief spring to try to build up moreoil pressure, but unfortunately the problem most likely lies in either the bearingsor the cam journals. I feel for ya. Not a happy thing. How much timedoes the lower end have on it? It would be worth mounting another gauge justto double check. For what it's worth, I see 35 or so at almost all operatingrpms, temperatures and oil weights.Good Luck Dan!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:05:18 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Hmmm... Not good Dan. I know the manual says 10 psi at idle is okay, but theyusually will hold at least 30 psi at idle. Since it's dropping after a few minutesis probably a sign that there is excess clearance at the crank bearingsor in the cam journals. There are some band-aid ideas out there like trying toincrease the pressure at the pressure relief spring to try to build up moreoil pressure, but unfortunately the problem most likely lies in either the bearingsor the cam journals. I feel for ya. Not a happy thing. How much timedoes the lower end have on it? It would be worth mounting another gauge justto double check. For what it's worth, I see 35 or so at almost all operatingrpms, temperatures and oil weights.Good Luck Dan!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:05:18 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Hey Don, Thanks for the insight. Everything was normal until I replaced the #4 cylinder- pressures in the thirties even when idling, even after flying an hour or more.What could adding this one "new" cylinder do to cause this problem? This "new" cylinder is just a yellow tag cylinder from off the shelf at PoplarGrove. 0.015 over, same as the old cyl. The engine logs are incomplete from before '65, but it was estimated that it had400hrs when it was overhauled, then. Its been another 320 hours SMOH. It sat idle between '67 and '80 and it led an easy life until '08 when the formerowner bought it and put 180 hours on it. Dan-- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 4:18 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:> > Hmmm... Not good Dan. I know the manual says 10 psi at idle is okay, but theyusually will hold at least 30 psi at idle. Since it's dropping after a fewminutes is probably a sign that there is excess clearance at the crank bearingsor in the cam journals. There are some band-aid ideas out there like tryingto increase the pressure at the pressure relief spring to try to build up moreoil pressure, but unfortunately the problem most likely lies in either the bearingsor the cam journals. I feel for ya. Not a happy thing. How much timedoes the lower end have on it? It would be worth mounting another gauge justto double check. For what it's worth, I see 35 or so at almost all operatingrpms, temperatures and oil weights.> > Good Luck Dan!> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Hey Don, Thanks for the insight. Everything was normal until I replaced the #4 cylinder- pressures in the thirties even when idling, even after flying an hour or more.What could adding this one "new" cylinder do to cause this problem? This "new" cylinder is just a yellow tag cylinder from off the shelf at PoplarGrove. 0.015 over, same as the old cyl. The engine logs are incomplete from before '65, but it was estimated that it had400hrs when it was overhauled, then. Its been another 320 hours SMOH. It sat idle between '67 and '80 and it led an easy life until '08 when the formerowner bought it and put 180 hours on it. Dan-- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 4:18 PM, "Don Emch" wrote:> > Hmmm... Not good Dan. I know the manual says 10 psi at idle is okay, but theyusually will hold at least 30 psi at idle. Since it's dropping after a fewminutes is probably a sign that there is excess clearance at the crank bearingsor in the cam journals. There are some band-aid ideas out there like tryingto increase the pressure at the pressure relief spring to try to build up moreoil pressure, but unfortunately the problem most likely lies in either the bearingsor the cam journals. I feel for ya. Not a happy thing. How much timedoes the lower end have on it? It would be worth mounting another gauge justto double check. For what it's worth, I see 35 or so at almost all operatingrpms, temperatures and oil weights.> > Good Luck Dan!> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dan,Did you plastigage the rod bearings?Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
Dan,Did you plastigage the rod bearings?Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
-- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> > Dan,> > Did you plastigage the rod bearings?> > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (20 ribs down.) > > > -----Original Message-----
-- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> > Dan,> > Did you plastigage the rod bearings?> > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (20 ribs down.) > > > -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Oops. Hit send too fast. Still, I'll google plastigage when I get home and offthe iPhone. I grabbed the piston rod and tried to wiggle it in and out, perpendicular to theshaft. No wiggle. A little wiggle parallel to the shaft, but my A&P says thatwas OK. Dan-- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> > Dan,> > Did you plastigage the rod bearings?> > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (20 ribs down.) > > > -----Original Message-----
Oops. Hit send too fast. Still, I'll google plastigage when I get home and offthe iPhone. I grabbed the piston rod and tried to wiggle it in and out, perpendicular to theshaft. No wiggle. A little wiggle parallel to the shaft, but my A&P says thatwas OK. Dan-- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 3, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Gary Boothe wrote:> > Dan,> > Did you plastigage the rod bearings?> > Gary Boothe > Cool, Ca. > Pietenpol > WW Corvair Conversion, mounted > Tail done, Fuselage on gear > (20 ribs down.) > > > -----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: How to be a proper Pietenpol passenger
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
The nimble petite passengers make it look so easy. Others have a more difficult time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLPpG73 ... ---DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
The nimble petite passengers make it look so easy. Others have a more difficult time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLPpG73 ... ---DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dan,I may have presumed too much, as I really don't know what your issue was.Just assuming that you would change the bearings when you replaced thecylinder and piston, but maybe you just changed out the cylinder.Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
Dan,I may have presumed too much, as I really don't know what your issue was.Just assuming that you would change the bearings when you replaced thecylinder and piston, but maybe you just changed out the cylinder.Gary Boothe Cool, Ca. Pietenpol WW Corvair Conversion, mounted Tail done, Fuselage on gear (20 ribs down.) -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?Gary,Yes, they just changed out a cylinder. Generally speaking, unless therod felt sloppy on the crank or gave some indication of significantwear, you don't remove the rod from the crankshaft when changing acylinder. Pop the jug off, rework or repair, and reinstall.Ryan MuellerSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 3, 2010, at 6:58 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:>> Dan,>> I may have presumed too much, as I really don't know what your issue was.> Just assuming that you would change the bearings when you replaced the> cylinder and piston, but maybe you just changed out the cylinder.>> Gary Boothe> Cool, Ca.> Pietenpol> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted> Tail done, Fuselage on gear> (20 ribs down.)>>> -----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?Gary,Yes, they just changed out a cylinder. Generally speaking, unless therod felt sloppy on the crank or gave some indication of significantwear, you don't remove the rod from the crankshaft when changing acylinder. Pop the jug off, rework or repair, and reinstall.Ryan MuellerSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 3, 2010, at 6:58 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:>> Dan,>> I may have presumed too much, as I really don't know what your issue was.> Just assuming that you would change the bearings when you replaced the> cylinder and piston, but maybe you just changed out the cylinder.>> Gary Boothe> Cool, Ca.> Pietenpol> WW Corvair Conversion, mounted> Tail done, Fuselage on gear> (20 ribs down.)>>> -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
It isn't a new thing, but I like the BPA logo as shown on their webpage. I thinkthis links without filling in a link box. If not, for the new folks, you cando a cut and paste. Doc puts together a nice newsletter. At $16 a year, or$30 for two years, it is a good deal.I'm not sure if the logo from the home page will paste, and I don't want to docopyright infringement stuff, so I will give credit to the Brodhead PietenpolAssociation since it is their logo.pietlogo.gifhttp://www.pietenpols.org/--------HOMEBUILDERWill WORK for SpruceLong flights, smooth air, and soft landings,GliderMike, aka Mike GlasgowRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
It isn't a new thing, but I like the BPA logo as shown on their webpage. I thinkthis links without filling in a link box. If not, for the new folks, you cando a cut and paste. Doc puts together a nice newsletter. At $16 a year, or$30 for two years, it is a good deal.I'm not sure if the logo from the home page will paste, and I don't want to docopyright infringement stuff, so I will give credit to the Brodhead PietenpolAssociation since it is their logo.pietlogo.gifhttp://www.pietenpols.org/--------HOMEBUILDERWill WORK for SpruceLong flights, smooth air, and soft landings,GliderMike, aka Mike GlasgowRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Ray made another suggestion off list which tickled my thought process: after drainingthe oil 2 weeks ago I didn't refill it. Could gunk have collected and compactedin the screen at the bottom of the suction tube?Maybe another quick thing to check if the relief valve isn't the culprit...________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Ray made another suggestion off list which tickled my thought process: after drainingthe oil 2 weeks ago I didn't refill it. Could gunk have collected and compactedin the screen at the bottom of the suction tube?Maybe another quick thing to check if the relief valve isn't the culprit...________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
Original Posted By: "Dan P"
I failed to mention that I got a consistent 35-40psi before the cylinder change,too. -- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 4, 2010, at 6:03 AM, "Greg Cardinal" wrote:> > Hi Dan,> > The oil pressure on NX18235 is very consistently 35-40 psi from idle to cruise.This is using Aeroshell 100W.> > Greg Cardinal> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
I failed to mention that I got a consistent 35-40psi before the cylinder change,too. -- yocum(at)gmail.comOn Jul 4, 2010, at 6:03 AM, "Greg Cardinal" wrote:> > Hi Dan,> > The oil pressure on NX18235 is very consistently 35-40 psi from idle to cruise.This is using Aeroshell 100W.> > Greg Cardinal> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
Gary, Not here at KLBL. When I announced I bought a Piet I was meet with biggrins and a "Cool, when can we see it?" The word traveled fast. Now I have pilotscoming up and asking me about it. How about changing the logo on the Brodhead website from "Low and Slow since 1929"to "Looking down on people since 1929. [Mr. Green]--------DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Gary, Not here at KLBL. When I announced I bought a Piet I was meet with biggrins and a "Cool, when can we see it?" The word traveled fast. Now I have pilotscoming up and asking me about it. How about changing the logo on the Brodhead website from "Low and Slow since 1929"to "Looking down on people since 1929. [Mr. Green]--------DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
It is a rare thing, but I have seen this happen after an engine (A65) had been overhauled or had internal work done..The cause of low oil pressure was, in both cases, a bit of debris unseating the oil pressure relief valve. The relief valve plunger was removed and the seat area in the crankcase was cleaned. Then the plunger and spring were re-installed. Voila! Problem solved.Since your oil pressure was OK before the cylinder change, maybe this is the cause of the problem. I hope so.Cheers,Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN in Alberta, Canada________________________________________________________________________________
It is a rare thing, but I have seen this happen after an engine (A65) had been overhauled or had internal work done..The cause of low oil pressure was, in both cases, a bit of debris unseating the oil pressure relief valve. The relief valve plunger was removed and the seat area in the crankcase was cleaned. Then the plunger and spring were re-installed. Voila! Problem solved.Since your oil pressure was OK before the cylinder change, maybe this is the cause of the problem. I hope so.Cheers,Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN in Alberta, Canada________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: lower radiator on Scout
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Jeff;The only reason I've ever seen for mounting theradiator up high is for thermal efficiency. Thewater pump is drawing in the coolest water fromthe bottom of the radiator, with positive headinto the pump. The hottest water then goes intothe top of the radiator and any air or steam isat the highest point in the system.With the radiator down low, you're pushing thehot water down to the radiator and pulling itback up... exactly the opposite of the naturalflow of things (heat rises; cool sinks). Notto mention that if the water is hot leaving theradiator, the water pump suction will flash itto steam and then you have cavitation and steamin the system.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:37:59 -0400
Jeff;The only reason I've ever seen for mounting theradiator up high is for thermal efficiency. Thewater pump is drawing in the coolest water fromthe bottom of the radiator, with positive headinto the pump. The hottest water then goes intothe top of the radiator and any air or steam isat the highest point in the system.With the radiator down low, you're pushing thehot water down to the radiator and pulling itback up... exactly the opposite of the naturalflow of things (heat rises; cool sinks). Notto mention that if the water is hot leaving theradiator, the water pump suction will flash itto steam and then you have cavitation and steamin the system.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:37:59 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: lower radiator on Scout
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Sorry. Learning about file sizes. Here it is, hopefully.--------Kevin PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/page ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: lower radiator on Scout
Sorry. Learning about file sizes. Here it is, hopefully.--------Kevin PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/page ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: lower radiator on Scout
Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
Original Posted By: "Dan P"
Jeff; I have no idea if water pumps have failed on Fords in airplanes, but theysure do fail in autos. The first sign could be coolant on the floor of the garageor it could be clattering and rattling up front, but none of it is good.I believe I've had at least one water pump failure in every car or truck I'veever owned (I tend to keep them 7-10 years minimum, though).I'd have to say that it would be unlikely that water flow by convection alone (hotwater rising, cooler water sinking) without benefit of a water pump wouldbe sufficient to cool these engines even with the radiator up top, but I've readenough stories about Subarus and other water-cooled conversions to know thatit eliminates LOTS of problems if the vapor is at the high point of the system,and if the high point of the system ISN'T the engine's cooling water outlet.But yeah, I know what the Ford 'A' Piet purists all say: "Real FBOs carry antifreeze"--------Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXAir Camper NX41CCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
Jeff; I have no idea if water pumps have failed on Fords in airplanes, but theysure do fail in autos. The first sign could be coolant on the floor of the garageor it could be clattering and rattling up front, but none of it is good.I believe I've had at least one water pump failure in every car or truck I'veever owned (I tend to keep them 7-10 years minimum, though).I'd have to say that it would be unlikely that water flow by convection alone (hotwater rising, cooler water sinking) without benefit of a water pump wouldbe sufficient to cool these engines even with the radiator up top, but I've readenough stories about Subarus and other water-cooled conversions to know thatit eliminates LOTS of problems if the vapor is at the high point of the system,and if the high point of the system ISN'T the engine's cooling water outlet.But yeah, I know what the Ford 'A' Piet purists all say: "Real FBOs carry antifreeze"--------Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXAir Camper NX41CCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
MikeThe Air Museum is still in business and going strong. The first Saturday in Octthere is going to be a flyin/ airshow with the museum being involved. Marybettie Tabor has been Recreation Activities Supervisor for many year promotingLiberal, KS. She has also served in other civic capacities as well. I think she has since retired. If you ever up this way again let me know.--------DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
MikeThe Air Museum is still in business and going strong. The first Saturday in Octthere is going to be a flyin/ airshow with the museum being involved. Marybettie Tabor has been Recreation Activities Supervisor for many year promotingLiberal, KS. She has also served in other civic capacities as well. I think she has since retired. If you ever up this way again let me know.--------DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Coming Soon!
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
This is still the best one! Especialy in the original red/browncolour.I now have a very large wheelbarrow! New 350/19 tireson wheels, wheels on axle, bungees in place. For all theseyears sitting on old yellow milk bottle carriers it sure is achange!Clif>> It isn't a new thing, but I like the BPA logo as shown on their webpage. > > http://www.pietenpols.org/> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:48:18 -0500
This is still the best one! Especialy in the original red/browncolour.I now have a very large wheelbarrow! New 350/19 tireson wheels, wheels on axle, bungees in place. For all theseyears sitting on old yellow milk bottle carriers it sure is achange!Clif>> It isn't a new thing, but I like the BPA logo as shown on their webpage. > > http://www.pietenpols.org/> GliderMike, aka Mike Glasgow________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:48:18 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Replace the pump as part of your maintenance program. I always replace it when I replace the timing belt. The old adage that "if it ain't broke=2C don't fix it" doesn't apply to water pumps.Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio _________________________________________________________________The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/the ... ______Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:25:49 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?
Replace the pump as part of your maintenance program. I always replace it when I replace the timing belt. The old adage that "if it ain't broke=2C don't fix it" doesn't apply to water pumps.Doug DeverIn beautiful Stow Ohio _________________________________________________________________The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/the ... ______Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 08:25:49 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New cylinder - low oil pressure?