Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Can't help you there... I haven't built my seats yet and don't have my plans handy.Perhaps someone else will help. As for the plans not being terribly clear... it is surprising how much informationis there... you may have to look in more than one place. I'm not saying thatthe dimension you are looking for IS there, but it wouldn't surprise me tofind that other measurements might be interpolated to arrive a the one you arelooking for.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Pietenpol-List: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
RE: Pietenpol-List: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Very Cool, Mark! It's nice to be able to keep the history alive, isn't it?Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Very Cool, Mark! It's nice to be able to keep the history alive, isn't it?Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
In answer to what paint we are useing it is the stuart system. It as a little pricey but it is water base with no odor and it is easy to work with. It makes a good tough finish and is very elastic. I am enjoying every minute of it. Have a great day, Bob________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
In answer to what paint we are useing it is the stuart system. It as a little pricey but it is water base with no odor and it is easy to work with. It makes a good tough finish and is very elastic. I am enjoying every minute of it. Have a great day, Bob________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: "Jack"
Greetings, Mark, et al.Your thread popped up on a search yesterday (Aug 6th), as I sometimes perform oneon the anniversary of my father's death in a Pietenpol crash back in 1983 inShelton Washington.You see... I am Orrin D. Hoopman, grandson of Orrin C. Hoopman. Not sure if any of you Pietenpol buffs know the bit of trivia that Orrin C.'s eldestson died while being blessed to be a passenger in a Pietenpol for the firsttime since he rode in his father's Air Camper back when he was four yearsold, circa 1938. Delbert Orrin Hoopman (my father) and I had searched airshowsfor years trying to find any Pietenpols. We sure found a beauty that day, theprettiest one we had ever seen. The owner/pilot (who survived the crash) wasa wonderful guy named Fred Imrie from British Columbia. I lost contact with himyears ago, but continue to wish him well on these anniversaries.Please take good care of my Aunt Bernis "Bernie" and all her family when you hookup with them in OK. Tell her that Orrin says, "Hello from Taiwan!"Over and out.--------Pietenpol's Forever!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Greetings, Mark, et al.Your thread popped up on a search yesterday (Aug 6th), as I sometimes perform oneon the anniversary of my father's death in a Pietenpol crash back in 1983 inShelton Washington.You see... I am Orrin D. Hoopman, grandson of Orrin C. Hoopman. Not sure if any of you Pietenpol buffs know the bit of trivia that Orrin C.'s eldestson died while being blessed to be a passenger in a Pietenpol for the firsttime since he rode in his father's Air Camper back when he was four yearsold, circa 1938. Delbert Orrin Hoopman (my father) and I had searched airshowsfor years trying to find any Pietenpols. We sure found a beauty that day, theprettiest one we had ever seen. The owner/pilot (who survived the crash) wasa wonderful guy named Fred Imrie from British Columbia. I lost contact with himyears ago, but continue to wish him well on these anniversaries.Please take good care of my Aunt Bernis "Bernie" and all her family when you hookup with them in OK. Tell her that Orrin says, "Hello from Taiwan!"Over and out.--------Pietenpol's Forever!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: aircamperace(at)yahoo.com
Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!=C2-I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me=C2-My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EAA, is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time.=C2- He also weighs 225lbs.=C2-While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil, her CG was very good.=C2- She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we get to 20=9D, and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit our rear CG.=C2- The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable to the use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery.=C2- A 20 gal wing tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear.=C2- However, I made the tail VERY light and it paid off.=C2- I=99m using a Cloud Car prop and the combo of the C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.=C2- =C2-Here=99s the scoop.=C2-Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently =9Clevitated=9D off the pavement after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well.=C2- I have it on video which I=99m posting.=C2- We don=99t know what she climbed at but from his experience he guessed 6-700fpm.=C2- All I know is we were two thirds down a 4,000 runway, he took off from the far end and before he was halfway to us was at 200 ft and turning away from the airport.=C2- The climb was deceptively steep, kind of like a big biplane.=C2- Just kind of goes up like an elevator, but very slowly.=C2-He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn=99t need to be changed.=C2- Stalls very straight and kind of mushes.=C2- Did two very tight circles, he said about 2.5 g=99s and she showed no tendency to do anything bad.=C2- Got her up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn=99t come off.=C2- She landed easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true.=C2- Smoke system worked too, though I got oil on my tail.=C2- =C2-I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the plastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends.=C2- My instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we=99ll fly the champ a bit and then off I go!!=C2-GOD IS GOOD=C2-Douwe=C2-Ps.=C2- Keving, I can=99t believe that picture of you!=C2-PSS.=C2- DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Well, after ten years of work and one MAJOR setback and rebuild (hence the name RE-PIET) NX799B successfully flew this morning!=C2-I am in the process of posting the video on youtube and will send the link as soon as I can get my kid to do it for me=C2-My test pilot who is also my instructor flies the Ford trimotor for the EAA, is an acrobatic instructor and has tons of big biplane time.=C2- He also weighs 225lbs.=C2-While my empty weight (TOW for those overseas) was heavy at 816 with oil, her CG was very good.=C2- She can carry a 230 pounder with 12 gallons before we get to 20=9D, and can carry a 200 pounder with 20 gallons before we hit our rear CG.=C2- The weight is all forward and the heaviness is attributable to the use of douglas fir, C-90 with starter, generator and battery.=C2- A 20 gal wing tank, mufflers, sidepipes and heavy landing gear.=C2- However, I made the tail VERY light and it paid off.=C2- I=99m using a Cloud Car prop and the combo of the C-90 and that prop seems to really help her climb.=C2- =C2-Here=99s the scoop.=C2-Tail was up before 2,000rpm, she evidently =9Clevitated=9D off the pavement after maybe a 100ft roll and climbed VERY well.=C2- I have it on video which I=99m posting.=C2- We don=99t know what she climbed at but from his experience he guessed 6-700fpm.=C2- All I know is we were two thirds down a 4,000 runway, he took off from the far end and before he was halfway to us was at 200 ft and turning away from the airport.=C2- The climb was deceptively steep, kind of like a big biplane.=C2- Just kind of goes up like an elevator, but very slowly.=C2-He says she flies hands off and the rigging doesn=99t need to be changed.=C2- Stalls very straight and kind of mushes.=C2- Did two very tight circles, he said about 2.5 g=99s and she showed no tendency to do anything bad.=C2- Got her up to about 100 in a shallow dive and the wings didn=99t come off.=C2- She landed easily on the pavement and tracked straight and true.=C2- Smoke system worked too, though I got oil on my tail.=C2- =C2-I have to modify the brake cables as the inner housing pulled through the plastic housing during run up, so I have to find some stouter cable ends.=C2- My instructor comes back on the 27th, at which time we=99ll fly the champ a bit and then off I go!!=C2-GOD IS GOOD=C2-Douwe=C2-Ps.=C2- Keving, I can=99t believe that picture of you!=C2-PSS.=C2- DAN, I was hoping to fly formation with you next year!!________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
I am sorry to hear about your loss. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 7, 2012, at 5:26 AM, "TaiwanTeacher" wrote:> > Greetings, Mark, et al.> > Your thread popped up on a search yesterday (Aug 6th), as I sometimes performone on the anniversary of my father's death in a Pietenpol crash back in 1983in Shelton Washington.> > You see... I am Orrin D. Hoopman, grandson of Orrin C. Hoopman. > > Not sure if any of you Pietenpol buffs know the bit of trivia that Orrin C.'seldest son died while being blessed to be a passenger in a Pietenpol for thefirst time since he rode in his father's Air Camper back when he was four yearsold, circa 1938. Delbert Orrin Hoopman (my father) and I had searched airshowsfor years trying to find any Pietenpols. We sure found a beauty that day, theprettiest one we had ever seen. The owner/pilot (who survived the crash) wasa wonderful guy named Fred Imrie from British Columbia. I lost contact withhim years ago, but continue to wish him well on these anniversaries.> > Please take good care of my Aunt Bernis "Bernie" and all her family when youhook up with them in OK. Tell her that Orrin says, "Hello from Taiwan!"> > Over and out.> > --------> Pietenpol's Forever!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 262#380262> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
I am sorry to hear about your loss. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 7, 2012, at 5:26 AM, "TaiwanTeacher" wrote:> > Greetings, Mark, et al.> > Your thread popped up on a search yesterday (Aug 6th), as I sometimes performone on the anniversary of my father's death in a Pietenpol crash back in 1983in Shelton Washington.> > You see... I am Orrin D. Hoopman, grandson of Orrin C. Hoopman. > > Not sure if any of you Pietenpol buffs know the bit of trivia that Orrin C.'seldest son died while being blessed to be a passenger in a Pietenpol for thefirst time since he rode in his father's Air Camper back when he was four yearsold, circa 1938. Delbert Orrin Hoopman (my father) and I had searched airshowsfor years trying to find any Pietenpols. We sure found a beauty that day, theprettiest one we had ever seen. The owner/pilot (who survived the crash) wasa wonderful guy named Fred Imrie from British Columbia. I lost contact withhim years ago, but continue to wish him well on these anniversaries.> > Please take good care of my Aunt Bernis "Bernie" and all her family when youhook up with them in OK. Tell her that Orrin says, "Hello from Taiwan!"> > Over and out.> > --------> Pietenpol's Forever!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 262#380262> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Fwd: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: Aircamperace(at)yahoo.com
Just so we all can learn, what was the cause of the accident?--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings to be covered next.Mitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Fwd: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Just so we all can learn, what was the cause of the accident?--------NX321LRFully AssembledTail assembly and ailerons covered and painted.Wings to be covered next.Mitsubishi PoweredRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Fwd: Pietenpol-List: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Hi guys:What kind of metal, and what gauge do you use for the top of the fuselage aroundthe pilot seats and over the nose? Sorry if this has been posted, but I struggledto think of a good search term...I am assuming it is aluminum, but kind and thickness is not called out that I cansee on the plans. I am about ready to cut the parts!Many thanks guys!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma
Hi guys:What kind of metal, and what gauge do you use for the top of the fuselage aroundthe pilot seats and over the nose? Sorry if this has been posted, but I struggledto think of a good search term...I am assuming it is aluminum, but kind and thickness is not called out that I cansee on the plans. I am about ready to cut the parts!Many thanks guys!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Re: More Pietenpol Roots in Oklahoma