Original Posted By: "Skagit"
Hi all-New builder here. I'm hoping to begin building this fall and I'm going throughall of the "up-front" decisions to figure out what I really want in a Piet. I'm seriously considering doing the Aerial biplane mod...love the biplane look.Can anyone share any opinions on the flying characteristics of the Aerial comparedto the straight Piet? How about building considerations? Anything else?Thanks!-- Skagit out 8)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Where to start?
Pietenpol-List: Where to start?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Like I mentioned in my other post, I'm a new builder hoping to start this fall.Question for the group is...where do most people start? Wing ribs? Empenage?I was thinking of starting with the tail, mostly because I was thinking about buildingan RV-8 a while back ($!), and that just seems to be where you start,so I carried that thought over to the Piet. Any input appreciated...--Skagit out 8)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Like I mentioned in my other post, I'm a new builder hoping to start this fall.Question for the group is...where do most people start? Wing ribs? Empenage?I was thinking of starting with the tail, mostly because I was thinking about buildingan RV-8 a while back ($!), and that just seems to be where you start,so I carried that thought over to the Piet. Any input appreciated...--Skagit out 8)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Re: Pietenpol-List: St. Croix Aerial Opinions?
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Welcome.... I started with the fuselage as that is what I was most excitied about....I suggest you start with whatever part of the airplane YOU are motivatedto build....--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:52:41 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: St. Croix Aerial Opinions?
Welcome.... I started with the fuselage as that is what I was most excitied about....I suggest you start with whatever part of the airplane YOU are motivatedto build....--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:52:41 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: St. Croix Aerial Opinions?
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Original Posted By: "Skagit"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T> > Just wondering, are there any differences between the engine in the Model T &Model A Ford? I had a discovery today of 2 Model T chassis's with > engines and have been told the guy who owns these has 21 of them. > Not sure if they are all Model T or if he has any model A engines. > Are they the same engine?> > Scotty> > --------> Tamworth, Australia> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper> > www.scottyspietenpol.com> > Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to > start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be > modified.> > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 012#370012> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A & Model T> > Just wondering, are there any differences between the engine in the Model T &Model A Ford? I had a discovery today of 2 Model T chassis's with > engines and have been told the guy who owns these has 21 of them. > Not sure if they are all Model T or if he has any model A engines. > Are they the same engine?> > Scotty> > --------> Tamworth, Australia> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper> > www.scottyspietenpol.com> > Rudder, Vert stab, Elevators, Hor Stab and Ribs built...About to > start fuselage...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be > modified.> > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 012#370012> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Original Posted By: Amsafetyc
Hi Ryan-I looked at all those other designs, but I'm looking for two seats, wood construction,corvair powered, and reasonably priced. Tah dah...the Piet. Like I saidI love the bipe look, so thought the Aerial mod made sense. I'm 6', 215. Concerned I'm not going to fit in something?Rob[quote="Ryan Mueller"]If you want to build a Pietenpol, then build a Pietenpol(Air Camper or Sky Scout). If you want a biplane, build an Aerial, Hatz, Parakeet,Great Lakes, etc etc....they are all different airplanes from what Pietenpoldesigned... Just curious....what are your measurements (height/weight)...RyanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Hi Ryan-I looked at all those other designs, but I'm looking for two seats, wood construction,corvair powered, and reasonably priced. Tah dah...the Piet. Like I saidI love the bipe look, so thought the Aerial mod made sense. I'm 6', 215. Concerned I'm not going to fit in something?Rob[quote="Ryan Mueller"]If you want to build a Pietenpol, then build a Pietenpol(Air Camper or Sky Scout). If you want a biplane, build an Aerial, Hatz, Parakeet,Great Lakes, etc etc....they are all different airplanes from what Pietenpoldesigned... Just curious....what are your measurements (height/weight)...RyanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
You will receive several answers from all builders. I myself thought about wingsfirst. Then I read Tony Bengalis sp who suggested fuse first. Fuse first isa good place to begin as it takes less time and provides a major structural componentthat illustrates a major accomplishment and fuels the addiction. Jackis correct in that once assembled your space becomes the next major area of considerationit is difficult to store. Where as the wings take more time and patientsto build and store more readily. For the most part and commitment start with smaller structural components liketail surfaces. Easy to store shorter time to build and get the flavor of the buildand is it for you? You can decide to continue or abandon that ambition withminimal investment loss as you decide on a different venture and still havea tangible component to look at and ponder, study or hang in your shop.A fuze and wings are too big to walk away from and too big to store for a laterdate unless space is not an issue or abundantly available at low or no cost Space, time, investment and commitment are natural components of the build. BeingADD also helps, it permits you to set up your work plan to maximize taskswhile the epoxy cures Just my 2 centsJohnSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 3, 2012, at 11:09 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > Welcome.... I started with the fuselage as that is what I was most excitied about....I suggest you start with whatever part of the airplane YOU are motivatedto build....> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 001#370001> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:19:01 -0500
You will receive several answers from all builders. I myself thought about wingsfirst. Then I read Tony Bengalis sp who suggested fuse first. Fuse first isa good place to begin as it takes less time and provides a major structural componentthat illustrates a major accomplishment and fuels the addiction. Jackis correct in that once assembled your space becomes the next major area of considerationit is difficult to store. Where as the wings take more time and patientsto build and store more readily. For the most part and commitment start with smaller structural components liketail surfaces. Easy to store shorter time to build and get the flavor of the buildand is it for you? You can decide to continue or abandon that ambition withminimal investment loss as you decide on a different venture and still havea tangible component to look at and ponder, study or hang in your shop.A fuze and wings are too big to walk away from and too big to store for a laterdate unless space is not an issue or abundantly available at low or no cost Space, time, investment and commitment are natural components of the build. BeingADD also helps, it permits you to set up your work plan to maximize taskswhile the epoxy cures Just my 2 centsJohnSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 3, 2012, at 11:09 PM, "aerocarjake" wrote:> > Welcome.... I started with the fuselage as that is what I was most excitied about....I suggest you start with whatever part of the airplane YOU are motivatedto build....> > --------> Jake Schultz - curator,> Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 001#370001> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:19:01 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Where to start?
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB"
Thanks all! Just wanted to make sure I didn't make some major sequencing error.I think I'll do the tail first. Being my first build I like the idea of gettinga feel for everything before I throw a bunch of money at it. RobRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks all! Just wanted to make sure I didn't make some major sequencing error.I think I'll do the tail first. Being my first build I like the idea of gettinga feel for everything before I throw a bunch of money at it. RobRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
TOMS(at)mcpcity.com wrote:> > Just be sure to add the attachment points for the JATO rockets, smoke generators,and tailhook now so you don't have to go back and cobble up your hard worklater.> Sweet...does Keri-Ann sell plans for those? [Wink] RobRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:45:45 +0000 (UTC)
TOMS(at)mcpcity.com wrote:> > Just be sure to add the attachment points for the JATO rockets, smoke generators,and tailhook now so you don't have to go back and cobble up your hard worklater.> Sweet...does Keri-Ann sell plans for those? [Wink] RobRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:45:45 +0000 (UTC)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Where to start?
Original Posted By: "Skagit"
I started with the tail members, then went to the wing ribs, finally to the fuselage. Got it about 1/3 done and switched to the wing. Built the 3-piece version -- right wing first, left wing next, then the center section. Finally got back to the fuselage. Incidentally, while all this was going on built up a WW conversion Corvair engine. Looks great. Haven't run it yet. As soon as the fuselage is far enough along I'll mount the engine and give her a whirl. Most of the engine work was done at Corvair College #21. Hope this helps -- it really doesn't matter where you start. Things just sort of move along. C----- Original Message -----
I started with the tail members, then went to the wing ribs, finally to the fuselage. Got it about 1/3 done and switched to the wing. Built the 3-piece version -- right wing first, left wing next, then the center section. Finally got back to the fuselage. Incidentally, while all this was going on built up a WW conversion Corvair engine. Looks great. Haven't run it yet. As soon as the fuselage is far enough along I'll mount the engine and give her a whirl. Most of the engine work was done at Corvair College #21. Hope this helps -- it really doesn't matter where you start. Things just sort of move along. C----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Where to start?
Original Posted By: Dave Millikan