Original Posted By: "giacummo"
Steve,You will definitely want more outlets, you can never have enough. Also good lightingand some sort of heat for the winters, and fans for the summer. When Ipurchase my hangar it was insulated, had good HO lighting, natural gas heat, anda bathroom. I added many more outlets, along with pull-downs from the ceiling.I also did epoxy floor coating and added a Town-home style apartment on theback side of the hangar. I love living at the airport and the wife does too.My next hangar improvement will be air-conditioning for the work area of theshop.. Today its cold and rainy with snow on the way, I can kick on the heat,turn on the big lights and work till midnight in a t-shirt, then go in takea shower, go up stairs turn on the TV, kiss the wife and then go to bed. Lifeis good.BrianSLC-UTRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p925 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
One more thing.... Before you move all your crap in, paint the floor with thegood 2 part stuff. I've used Sherwin Williams on a garage and the hangar andthe only way to get it off is with a chisel. I've spilled every liquid you canbuy at Home Depot or AutoZone (MEK, dot 3 brake fluid, oil, gasoline, acetone,toluene, etc) and nothing touches it. The trick is to get the good stuff andit isn't cheap. I think the new name for it is Armor Seal Floorthane T-1000or something similar. It's in the industrial catalog so you'll need to corralthe one guy who knows where to find it. Runs $100+ a gallon but you only doit once. Prep according to the instructions or you WILL do it twice. Beenon the floor of my garage for 10 years looks as good as when I put it down.I hope you enjoy all of us kibitzers. We do mean well....DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
One more thing.... Before you move all your crap in, paint the floor with thegood 2 part stuff. I've used Sherwin Williams on a garage and the hangar andthe only way to get it off is with a chisel. I've spilled every liquid you canbuy at Home Depot or AutoZone (MEK, dot 3 brake fluid, oil, gasoline, acetone,toluene, etc) and nothing touches it. The trick is to get the good stuff andit isn't cheap. I think the new name for it is Armor Seal Floorthane T-1000or something similar. It's in the industrial catalog so you'll need to corralthe one guy who knows where to find it. Runs $100+ a gallon but you only doit once. Prep according to the instructions or you WILL do it twice. Beenon the floor of my garage for 10 years looks as good as when I put it down.I hope you enjoy all of us kibitzers. We do mean well....DaveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: santiago morete
May be I make the wrong question. I want to figure how do you cover the wing inthis side. Where do I attach the fabric?.. I have to wrap de rib? (in this case the side keepopen) How do you do it?--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 04:42:46 -0800 (PST)
May be I make the wrong question. I want to figure how do you cover the wing inthis side. Where do I attach the fabric?.. I have to wrap de rib? (in this case the side keepopen) How do you do it?--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 04:42:46 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Michael,No, I have never had an issue with it being covered. I only have the two wingattach bolts in there and have never needed to get to them until I rebuilt theplane. It was covered for 29 years like that and now has been covered another12 years, 41 years total like that. All the hardware was tight when removed.If someone still wanted to have access to those attach point they could putsmall inspection plates at those joints. I have no need for them. It also helpswith the one piece wig look while enjoying the benefits of the three piecewing. Ahh, the choices we have to make while we build,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 05:42:37 -0800 (PST)
Michael,No, I have never had an issue with it being covered. I only have the two wingattach bolts in there and have never needed to get to them until I rebuilt theplane. It was covered for 29 years like that and now has been covered another12 years, 41 years total like that. All the hardware was tight when removed.If someone still wanted to have access to those attach point they could putsmall inspection plates at those joints. I have no need for them. It also helpswith the one piece wig look while enjoying the benefits of the three piecewing. Ahh, the choices we have to make while we build,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 05:42:37 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: "C N Campbell"
Actually I did fly it first. I'm not sure that it would really make a difference.When you make trim adjustments, only the wing tips move. The wing roots arebolted solid and should never move. I left the end 4 inches of the fabric finishedthrough the Poly-Brush stage. This gave me an area to attach the fabricto. then finish through paint. It worked out well for me. The hardest partis covering the whole plane for the painting. I used that thin painters plasticfrom the local hardware store. Took about three hours to cover it well.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Actually I did fly it first. I'm not sure that it would really make a difference.When you make trim adjustments, only the wing tips move. The wing roots arebolted solid and should never move. I left the end 4 inches of the fabric finishedthrough the Poly-Brush stage. This gave me an area to attach the fabricto. then finish through paint. It worked out well for me. The hardest partis covering the whole plane for the painting. I used that thin painters plasticfrom the local hardware store. Took about three hours to cover it well.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Michael, I have never seen plywood covering called for on the 4 ribs at the ends of the center section and the wing panels on any of the plans. If it's good enough for Mr. Pietenpol, it's good enough for me. I figure the vertical pieces in the 4 butt ribs are to take care of the stress of stretching the fabric accross those ribs. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
Michael, I have never seen plywood covering called for on the 4 ribs at the ends of the center section and the wing panels on any of the plans. If it's good enough for Mr. Pietenpol, it's good enough for me. I figure the vertical pieces in the 4 butt ribs are to take care of the stress of stretching the fabric accross those ribs. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: "giacummo"
Too much answers out of topic... how do you cover this side?... the yellow marked;do you take the fabric from top of the wing to bootom around the rib, or youput a playwood piece like the photo Michael post (but in the wing, not thecenter section..)I am thinking in the stretching process, the fabric stretch a lot in 4 m, aroundhalf a meter, and the forces over the last rib will be very strong; this ribbhave reinforces for this, so it's necesary a plywodd section like the centersection there?--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Too much answers out of topic... how do you cover this side?... the yellow marked;do you take the fabric from top of the wing to bootom around the rib, or youput a playwood piece like the photo Michael post (but in the wing, not thecenter section..)I am thinking in the stretching process, the fabric stretch a lot in 4 m, aroundhalf a meter, and the forces over the last rib will be very strong; this ribbhave reinforces for this, so it's necesary a plywodd section like the centersection there?--------Mario Giacummohttp://vgmk1.blogspot.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Greg Bacon
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: First flight of Don Harpers new Pietenpol
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)Barbaro, exactly what I want to see... thank youMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2012/12/8 Greg Bacon > Hi Mario,>> The wing butt rib is strengthened with braces. The 3 piece wing> supplement shows these braces, see photo. The extra bracing is needed for> the forces applied by the stretched fabric. I further strengthened the> butt rib by wrapping the rib with a 2 inch wide strip of 1/16" plywood (T88> epoxy), see photo. The plywood also provides for more surface area for> gluing in the braces. The plywood and braces made the butt rib rock solid.> The credit for this method goes to John Dilatush, Mountain Piet builder.> I'm simply duplicating his work.>> Fabric - I glued the fabric to the plywood and trimmed it flush with a> razor after the glue dried. When it came time for applying the perimeter> tape, I wrapped finish tape around the edge of the plywood to further> secure the fabric. This is a nice method if you want an open butt rib.> You can also close the butt rib with fabric. Watch the Stewart System> videos on youtube to see how this is done. This was demonstrated on a> Piper Colt wing. He cut 3 separate pieces of fabric and pieced them in> around the spar ends. These pieces are heat shrunk along with the rest of> the wing.>> These are just a few ideas. There are many other ways to deal with the> butt rib. Hope it helps.>> Greg Bacon> NX114D(Mountain Piet)>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, giacummo wrote:>>> mario.giacummo(at)gmail.com>>>>> May be I make the wrong question. I want to figure how do you cover the>> wing in this side.>> Where do I attach the fabric?.. I have to wrap de rib? (in this case the>> side keep open)>> How do you do it?>>>> -------->> Mario Giacummo>> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 003#390003>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> le, List Admin.>> ==========>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>>>>>>>>>>> --> Greg Bacon>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First flight of Don Harpers new Pietenpol
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)Barbaro, exactly what I want to see... thank youMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2012/12/8 Greg Bacon > Hi Mario,>> The wing butt rib is strengthened with braces. The 3 piece wing> supplement shows these braces, see photo. The extra bracing is needed for> the forces applied by the stretched fabric. I further strengthened the> butt rib by wrapping the rib with a 2 inch wide strip of 1/16" plywood (T88> epoxy), see photo. The plywood also provides for more surface area for> gluing in the braces. The plywood and braces made the butt rib rock solid.> The credit for this method goes to John Dilatush, Mountain Piet builder.> I'm simply duplicating his work.>> Fabric - I glued the fabric to the plywood and trimmed it flush with a> razor after the glue dried. When it came time for applying the perimeter> tape, I wrapped finish tape around the edge of the plywood to further> secure the fabric. This is a nice method if you want an open butt rib.> You can also close the butt rib with fabric. Watch the Stewart System> videos on youtube to see how this is done. This was demonstrated on a> Piper Colt wing. He cut 3 separate pieces of fabric and pieced them in> around the spar ends. These pieces are heat shrunk along with the rest of> the wing.>> These are just a few ideas. There are many other ways to deal with the> butt rib. Hope it helps.>> Greg Bacon> NX114D(Mountain Piet)>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, giacummo wrote:>>> mario.giacummo(at)gmail.com>>>>> May be I make the wrong question. I want to figure how do you cover the>> wing in this side.>> Where do I attach the fabric?.. I have to wrap de rib? (in this case the>> side keep open)>> How do you do it?>>>> -------->> Mario Giacummo>> http://vgmk1.blogspot.com>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 003#390003>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> le, List Admin.>> ==========>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========>>>>>>>>>>> --> Greg Bacon>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First flight of Don Harpers new Pietenpol
Original Posted By: Gardiner
Hi Gardiner,No I don't have Don's email, but I am almost sure the barnwellairport@bellsouth.net address is P.F.'sDan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Hi Gardiner,No I don't have Don's email, but I am almost sure the barnwellairport@bellsouth.net address is P.F.'sDan HelsperPuryear, TN-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
If you have done all of those things, it is usually lack of prime. I say get acan of starter fluid and hose it down, pull through a few times, and make it hot.If it doesn't even fire then, you have a mag problem (which I doubt)GeneOn Dec 9, 2012, at 11:11 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > First, let's eliminate spark. Yes, the ignition switch was on 'both' when startingattempts were made. I had to keep going back and forth from the nose tothe cockpit as I would try different things, and anytime the prop required repositioning,I would kill the mags. The mags are new Slicks with new harnesses,impulse couplings on both, and as I said, the plugs looked just the rightcolor. I did not gap them though.> > Now let's talk fuel. Of course I drained samples from the gascolator severaltimes after washing the airplane since the "bent rod and cork" fuel level systemrequires that there be an open hole in the fuel cap, and another right nextto it for a vent. I drained a very, very small amount of water from the gascolatoron the first check and none thereafter. I also drained a bit of fuelinto a plastic tote (to fuel up the Triumph), so it was flowing well and shouldbe clean. Fuel valve was on when starting attempts were made.> > Last item is air. I must admit that I didn't pull the air filter to check forobstructions, but I should do that since it's about due for a good cleaningand re-oiling after the dusty time it just had in Texas. I'll have to admit thatthe mixture may have been running rich if the filter is obstructed.> > I'll give it some more attempts before I give up and ship the machine back toTexas. It always started easily down there ;o)> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 130#390130> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
If you have done all of those things, it is usually lack of prime. I say get acan of starter fluid and hose it down, pull through a few times, and make it hot.If it doesn't even fire then, you have a mag problem (which I doubt)GeneOn Dec 9, 2012, at 11:11 PM, "taildrags" wrote:> > First, let's eliminate spark. Yes, the ignition switch was on 'both' when startingattempts were made. I had to keep going back and forth from the nose tothe cockpit as I would try different things, and anytime the prop required repositioning,I would kill the mags. The mags are new Slicks with new harnesses,impulse couplings on both, and as I said, the plugs looked just the rightcolor. I did not gap them though.> > Now let's talk fuel. Of course I drained samples from the gascolator severaltimes after washing the airplane since the "bent rod and cork" fuel level systemrequires that there be an open hole in the fuel cap, and another right nextto it for a vent. I drained a very, very small amount of water from the gascolatoron the first check and none thereafter. I also drained a bit of fuelinto a plastic tote (to fuel up the Triumph), so it was flowing well and shouldbe clean. Fuel valve was on when starting attempts were made.> > Last item is air. I must admit that I didn't pull the air filter to check forobstructions, but I should do that since it's about due for a good cleaningand re-oiling after the dusty time it just had in Texas. I'll have to admit thatthe mixture may have been running rich if the filter is obstructed.> > I'll give it some more attempts before I give up and ship the machine back toTexas. It always started easily down there ;o)> > --------> Oscar Zuniga> Medford, OR> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"> A75 power> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 130#390130> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Greg Bacon
Hi PF - Please pass on Shelley & my congratulations to Don.Thanks--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:26:20 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Hi PF - Please pass on Shelley & my congratulations to Don.Thanks--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:26:20 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)I think glue the cover over it, in a big surface, and help the ribb fromthe tension do it when you shrink the clotheMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2012/12/10 John Francis >> What is the purpose of the 1/16 by 2 plywood rib braces? Once glued to> the ribs it seems to me like they're just hangin out there.>> John>> --------> John Francis>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 161#390161>>> Attachments:>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rib_ ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:32:39 -0800
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)I think glue the cover over it, in a big surface, and help the ribb fromthe tension do it when you shrink the clotheMario Giacummo. -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- /...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .2012/12/10 John Francis >> What is the purpose of the 1/16 by 2 plywood rib braces? Once glued to> the ribs it seems to me like they're just hangin out there.>> John>> --------> John Francis>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 161#390161>>> Attachments:>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rib_ ... ______Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 09:32:39 -0800
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: "John Francis"
John it is necessary for sure. It keeps the root rib from flexing outward towardsthe tip when shrinking your fabric.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 9:40 AM, "John Francis" wrote:> > What is the purpose of the 1/16 by 2 plywood rib braces? Once glued to the ribsit seems to me like they're just hangin out there.> > John> > --------> John Francis> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 161#390161> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rib_ ... 12_199.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
John it is necessary for sure. It keeps the root rib from flexing outward towardsthe tip when shrinking your fabric.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 9:40 AM, "John Francis" wrote:> > What is the purpose of the 1/16 by 2 plywood rib braces? Once glued to the ribsit seems to me like they're just hangin out there.> > John> > --------> John Francis> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 161#390161> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rib_ ... 12_199.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: First flight of Don Harpers new Pietenpol
Original Posted By: Robert Bush
Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that prevents itfrom bending?--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First flight of Don Harpers new Pietenpol
Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that prevents itfrom bending?--------John FrancisRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First flight of Don Harpers new Pietenpol
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Jack
Hi PF,Tell Don congrats for me. Y'all are gonna have to fly to Brodhead and stop by tn and I'll fly with you!Randy BushSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 9, 2012, at 3:35 PM, "Barnwell Regional Airport" wrote:> Pietenpolers,> > Yesterday, Don Harpers new Pietenpol went for it's first flight.> > After two circuits of the airport, several of the engine instruments were not reading correctly, the plane was landed and the problems will be corrected before the next flight.> > More information to follow as flight testing continues.> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Hi PF,Tell Don congrats for me. Y'all are gonna have to fly to Brodhead and stop by tn and I'll fly with you!Randy BushSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 9, 2012, at 3:35 PM, "Barnwell Regional Airport" wrote:> Pietenpolers,> > Yesterday, Don Harpers new Pietenpol went for it's first flight.> > After two circuits of the airport, several of the engine instruments were not reading correctly, the plane was landed and the problems will be corrected before the next flight.> > More information to follow as flight testing continues.> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
Yes, 2 inches at 90 degrees is very rigid.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, "John Francis" wrote:> > Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that preventsit from bending?> > --------> John Francis> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#390245> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Yes, 2 inches at 90 degrees is very rigid.Sent from my iPadJack TextorOn Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, "John Francis" wrote:> > Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that preventsit from bending?> > --------> John Francis> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#390245> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Don't think I would have admitted to 2", but if it works....GeneOn Dec 10, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Jack wrote:> > Yes, 2 inches at 90 degrees is very rigid.> > Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, "John Francis" wrote:> >> >> Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that preventsit from bending?>> >> -------->> John Francis>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#390245> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Don't think I would have admitted to 2", but if it works....GeneOn Dec 10, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Jack wrote:> > Yes, 2 inches at 90 degrees is very rigid.> > Sent from my iPad> Jack Textor> > On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:57 PM, "John Francis" wrote:> >> >> Is it just the stiffness of the plywood glued to the cap strip that preventsit from bending?>> >> -------->> John Francis>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#390245> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Original Posted By: Jack
Charles,Congratulations on accomplishing such a milestone at a young age! I was just about your age when I saw my first Pietenpol and vowed to someday build that...that was 40 years ago, and have just accomplished that dream...I tend to agree with Mario, as I doubt there is not too much you couldn't fix at that price! It would also be very instructive for you to bring another experienced builder with you...besides the obvious advantage of getting some free help loading it. Keep in mind that this is a multi-year commitment, even for the most committed, even obsessive, builder. Please stay in touch with us and let us know how it turns out. That project will have a special story, all its own.Gary BootheNX308MBSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 10, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it, get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not... rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure there will be someone near you thhat can help you. > > good look> > Mario Giacummo> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .> > > > 2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder ailbox.net>>> >> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? =46rom what he told me he is a very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advance everyone......>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 261#390261>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==========>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> le, List Admin.>> ==========>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)
Charles,Congratulations on accomplishing such a milestone at a young age! I was just about your age when I saw my first Pietenpol and vowed to someday build that...that was 40 years ago, and have just accomplished that dream...I tend to agree with Mario, as I doubt there is not too much you couldn't fix at that price! It would also be very instructive for you to bring another experienced builder with you...besides the obvious advantage of getting some free help loading it. Keep in mind that this is a multi-year commitment, even for the most committed, even obsessive, builder. Please stay in touch with us and let us know how it turns out. That project will have a special story, all its own.Gary BootheNX308MBSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 10, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mario Giacummo wrote:> all the wood structure for 300 dollars?!?!?!?.. for this price.. buy it, get a set of plans and follow them, then look, this is ok, this not... rebuild here, rebuild there.. I do not know, I was joking, but shure there will be someone near you thhat can help you. > > good look> > Mario Giacummo> . -..- .. ... - .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .... . -.-. .... --- --..-- / ...- .. ...- .. .-. / . ... / ..- -. / .- .-. - .> > > > 2012/12/10 Charles Burkholder ailbox.net>>> >> Hi all I am a newbie to the Pietenpole. I am a 19 yr old private pilot who just got my license in a J3 Cub. I've been wanting to build a plane for years, having helped build ones in the past and the Pietenpole with a Corvair fits the bill. Especially that I found one for sale. Wings, fuse and tail for $300. The builder got alzheimers and his son is taking care of him and wants to get rid of some of his plane projects. What all should I look for when I go to look at it? Any spot in particular? =46rom what he told me he is a very expericenced plane builder but what should I look for as far as work quality? Thanks in advance everyone......>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 261#390261>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==========>> ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com>> ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com>> et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>> le, List Admin.>> ==========>> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ==========>> http://forums.matronics.com>> ==========> > > ============================================================================================================================================> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing border near the center section(covering question)