Original Posted By: "William Wynne"
Jon,The sign up for CC#30 closed about 90 minutes ago. After we have the emails ofeveryone who is attending, we send out a series of emails with a lot of detailson prepping for the college and the schedule for the event. The on line signup is done for us by Ken Pavlou (he flew the blue/gray Corvair powered 601XLto Oshkosh) and I expect to have the final list from him in a day or two, andthe builders who signed up will get the follow on information after that.If you have further questions after that, email me privately. If you would liketo cover it on the phone, I will be glad to do so when I get back to Floridain a week. Grace and I are still in NJ taking care of my Father. ww.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
GREAT story, GREAT photo! Bravo!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
GREAT story, GREAT photo! Bravo!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
William,Whether someone totally agrees with you or not, $80.00 sure seems like cheap insuranceto manage the risk and minimize the opportunity for an engine issue andan off-field landing. What is it Ben Franklin said about being pent wise, butpound foolish?--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
William,Whether someone totally agrees with you or not, $80.00 sure seems like cheap insuranceto manage the risk and minimize the opportunity for an engine issue andan off-field landing. What is it Ben Franklin said about being pent wise, butpound foolish?--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
WW,=0A=0A=0AI don't know about that man at Brodhead, but I can tell you that Rick Schreiber is no idiot. As a matter of fact, he is a very thoughtful, intelligent and purposeful decision maker. As for you, I would like to extend an invite to apply for the open position on the Board of Crumudeons. Your personality is exactly what we are looking for...abrasive, harsh, not reluctant to name-call. Please consider.=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
WW,=0A=0A=0AI don't know about that man at Brodhead, but I can tell you that Rick Schreiber is no idiot. As a matter of fact, he is a very thoughtful, intelligent and purposeful decision maker. As for you, I would like to extend an invite to apply for the open position on the Board of Crumudeons. Your personality is exactly what we are looking for...abrasive, harsh, not reluctant to name-call. Please consider.=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Dan,Since you felt the need to defend Rick, I guess I feel the need to do the sameon William's behalf. Not that he necessarily needs it.William did not call Rick an idiot, but obviously he did call the gentleman whohelped Rick in his decision making an idiot. Because idiot's DO advise on thingsthey know nothing about. My take it is not that he is an idiot. Rather thanbeing an idiot, I believe Rick is misinformed and misguided on who to listento when it comes to Corvair engines used in aircraft. You can decide what wordsto use when describing someone that allows their decision making to be influencedby those who have no experience in that area. I prefer to simply use theterm misguided, as that is what is more correct - guided incorrectly.As far as inviting William to join the Curmudgeons, I think that he would not bewelcome at that table for long. William's most recent postings that you find"curmudgeonly" I would describe them (more accurately) as focused and directon areas that he feels passionate about that fall under the category of risk managementand decision making. The Curmudgeonly group often, in my opinion havebeen disagreeable for disagreeability's sake, with little constructive advicecouched in the curmudgeonly responses. William is, obviously, opinionated, butas you can see from the definition below, opinionated is not a synonym forcurmudgeon. I think his focus on tangible issues as opposed to the concept ofthinking disagreeability is somehow "funny" would put him outside of the curmudgeonlymainstream very quickly.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Dan,Since you felt the need to defend Rick, I guess I feel the need to do the sameon William's behalf. Not that he necessarily needs it.William did not call Rick an idiot, but obviously he did call the gentleman whohelped Rick in his decision making an idiot. Because idiot's DO advise on thingsthey know nothing about. My take it is not that he is an idiot. Rather thanbeing an idiot, I believe Rick is misinformed and misguided on who to listento when it comes to Corvair engines used in aircraft. You can decide what wordsto use when describing someone that allows their decision making to be influencedby those who have no experience in that area. I prefer to simply use theterm misguided, as that is what is more correct - guided incorrectly.As far as inviting William to join the Curmudgeons, I think that he would not bewelcome at that table for long. William's most recent postings that you find"curmudgeonly" I would describe them (more accurately) as focused and directon areas that he feels passionate about that fall under the category of risk managementand decision making. The Curmudgeonly group often, in my opinion havebeen disagreeable for disagreeability's sake, with little constructive advicecouched in the curmudgeonly responses. William is, obviously, opinionated, butas you can see from the definition below, opinionated is not a synonym forcurmudgeon. I think his focus on tangible issues as opposed to the concept ofthinking disagreeability is somehow "funny" would put him outside of the curmudgeonlymainstream very quickly.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
.......just as one voice in the wind, I would like to say that if anyone sees somethingquestionable, unsafe, concerning, or anything of the like on my project/Pietenpol,I would appreciate if you could pull me aside quietly & whisperit in my ear, or post it offline, or post it openly, or use a bullhorn, or shoutit from a mountaintop. I am open to input.....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
.......just as one voice in the wind, I would like to say that if anyone sees somethingquestionable, unsafe, concerning, or anything of the like on my project/Pietenpol,I would appreciate if you could pull me aside quietly & whisperit in my ear, or post it offline, or post it openly, or use a bullhorn, or shoutit from a mountaintop. I am open to input.....!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
Nice comment, Jake. That is a rule we should all use as we build.Dan, one last thing. You may not agree with, or even appreciate William's methodof bringing this to Rick or other builder's attention. The one thing you cannotquestion is William's motive. He doesn't sell forged pistons. It is not hisparts for which he was questioning the lack of use. His motive is to help buildersmake sound as opposed to unsound decisions. It was not a question of usinga brand new oil cooler as opposed to using a stock GM oil cooler (both areused). It was a known flaw in parts choice that he questioned. People today thinkthat this is a live and let live world where people should be free to makedecisions good or bad, and we should not question their decisions. It mighthurt someone's feelings. William doesn't appear to ascribe to that notion whenit comes to risk management.My take is like Jake's-if you see me making a bad choice from a risk managementperspective, then by all means shout it from the roof tops if that is what ittakes to get my attention.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Nice comment, Jake. That is a rule we should all use as we build.Dan, one last thing. You may not agree with, or even appreciate William's methodof bringing this to Rick or other builder's attention. The one thing you cannotquestion is William's motive. He doesn't sell forged pistons. It is not hisparts for which he was questioning the lack of use. His motive is to help buildersmake sound as opposed to unsound decisions. It was not a question of usinga brand new oil cooler as opposed to using a stock GM oil cooler (both areused). It was a known flaw in parts choice that he questioned. People today thinkthat this is a live and let live world where people should be free to makedecisions good or bad, and we should not question their decisions. It mighthurt someone's feelings. William doesn't appear to ascribe to that notion whenit comes to risk management.My take is like Jake's-if you see me making a bad choice from a risk managementperspective, then by all means shout it from the roof tops if that is what ittakes to get my attention.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Sorry you feel that way on an open discourse, Dan. The fact that I disagree withyou and am willing to say why equates to fingernails down a chalk board saysat least as much about you, as it does me.Don't forget the delete button works well on any of these posts. If you don't likewhat I write, simply hit delete and the fingernails on a chalkboard magicallycease for you.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Sorry you feel that way on an open discourse, Dan. The fact that I disagree withyou and am willing to say why equates to fingernails down a chalk board saysat least as much about you, as it does me.Don't forget the delete button works well on any of these posts. If you don't likewhat I write, simply hit delete and the fingernails on a chalkboard magicallycease for you.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: jarheadpilot82
This may be unwelcome, but I am going to say it anyway. When I met Wm for the first time he looked like hell. No offense William. It was not long after his plane wreck and he was a pile of bandages and pain. It was really, really bad. He suffered a long time from that pain from the burns. He doesn't want any one else to go through what he did if they can avoid it. He got lucky and lived, some don't. His message isn't arrogance, but concern for people because someone may save a few bucks but leave a lasting hole in their family.Dennis-----Original Message-----
This may be unwelcome, but I am going to say it anyway. When I met Wm for the first time he looked like hell. No offense William. It was not long after his plane wreck and he was a pile of bandages and pain. It was really, really bad. He suffered a long time from that pain from the burns. He doesn't want any one else to go through what he did if they can avoid it. He got lucky and lived, some don't. His message isn't arrogance, but concern for people because someone may save a few bucks but leave a lasting hole in their family.Dennis-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHe doesn't sell forged pistons=0A=0AWell, I guess he does..=0A"Every forged piston we have ever sold was made in California"=0A=0A=0ANo, Mr Hand, I do not agree with, nor do I appreciate, his "method of bringing this to Rick's attention". I think it is low class, and more about WW's self-importance and self aggrandizement, rather than from a genuine concern for Rick's safety. And actually, I do question "William's motive". Dare I say, public humiliation, is not the best way to approach the "concern" for others.=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: jarheadpilot82 =0ATo: pietenpol-list =0ASent: Sun, Aug 17, 2014 1:33 pm=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning=0A=0A=0A-2(at)hotmail.com>=0A=0ANice comment, Jake. That is a rule we should all use as we build.=0A=0ADan, one last thing. You may not agree with, or even appreciate William's method =0Aof bringing this to Rick or other builder's attention. The one thing you cannot =0Aquestion is William's motive. He doesn't sell forged pistons. It is not his =0Aparts for which he was questioning the lack of use. His motive is to help =0Abuilders make sound as opposed to unsound decisions. It was not a question of =0Ausing a brand new oil cooler as opposed to using a stock GM oil cooler (both are =0Aused). It was a known flaw in parts choice that he questioned. People today =0Athink that this is a live and let live world where people should be free to make =0Adecisions good or bad, and we should not question their decisions. It might hurt =0Asomeone's feelings. William doesn't appear to ascribe to that notion when it =0Acomes to risk management.=0A=0AMy take is like Jake's-if you see me making a bad choice from a risk management =0Aperspective, then by all means shout it from the roof tops if that is what it =0Atakes to get my attention.=0A=0A--------=0ASemper Fi,=0A=0ATerry Hand=0AAthens, GA=0A=0AUSMC, USMCR, ATP=0ABVD DVD PDQ BBQ=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428615#428615=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=============================================================================================================================================================0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHe doesn't sell forged pistons=0A=0AWell, I guess he does..=0A"Every forged piston we have ever sold was made in California"=0A=0A=0ANo, Mr Hand, I do not agree with, nor do I appreciate, his "method of bringing this to Rick's attention". I think it is low class, and more about WW's self-importance and self aggrandizement, rather than from a genuine concern for Rick's safety. And actually, I do question "William's motive". Dare I say, public humiliation, is not the best way to approach the "concern" for others.=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: jarheadpilot82 =0ATo: pietenpol-list =0ASent: Sun, Aug 17, 2014 1:33 pm=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning=0A=0A=0A-2(at)hotmail.com>=0A=0ANice comment, Jake. That is a rule we should all use as we build.=0A=0ADan, one last thing. You may not agree with, or even appreciate William's method =0Aof bringing this to Rick or other builder's attention. The one thing you cannot =0Aquestion is William's motive. He doesn't sell forged pistons. It is not his =0Aparts for which he was questioning the lack of use. His motive is to help =0Abuilders make sound as opposed to unsound decisions. It was not a question of =0Ausing a brand new oil cooler as opposed to using a stock GM oil cooler (both are =0Aused). It was a known flaw in parts choice that he questioned. People today =0Athink that this is a live and let live world where people should be free to make =0Adecisions good or bad, and we should not question their decisions. It might hurt =0Asomeone's feelings. William doesn't appear to ascribe to that notion when it =0Acomes to risk management.=0A=0AMy take is like Jake's-if you see me making a bad choice from a risk management =0Aperspective, then by all means shout it from the roof tops if that is what it =0Atakes to get my attention.=0A=0A--------=0ASemper Fi,=0A=0ATerry Hand=0AAthens, GA=0A=0AUSMC, USMCR, ATP=0ABVD DVD PDQ BBQ=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=428615#428615=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=============================================================================================================================================================0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "Braniff1966"
Dan,A small point of correction-What I should have said is that William does not sell forged pistons of his owndesign.Again my point is simply this- William brought up the point in the way as he thoughtit the best way to get Rick's attention. I have no way of knowing unlessRick chooses to respond. I am not calling him out at all. I am just saying Ican't crawl inside his head in see why he made the build decision he did. Justas you can't crawl in Williams head and surmise why he did it that way.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Dan,A small point of correction-What I should have said is that William does not sell forged pistons of his owndesign.Again my point is simply this- William brought up the point in the way as he thoughtit the best way to get Rick's attention. I have no way of knowing unlessRick chooses to respond. I am not calling him out at all. I am just saying Ican't crawl inside his head in see why he made the build decision he did. Justas you can't crawl in Williams head and surmise why he did it that way.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GAUSMC, USMCR, ATPBVD DVD PDQ BBQRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: Kip Gmail
williams said it like it it is.. i understood his comments.. there is right, wrong,black and white when it comes to safety.. people that beat around their bushor someone elses bush irritate me. i want people looking at my project everydetail and telling me DIRECT if they see something im doing wrong.. i had ratherget my feelings hurt than my f______ing neck broke.. safety is everyonesjob and it comes first.. hydeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
williams said it like it it is.. i understood his comments.. there is right, wrong,black and white when it comes to safety.. people that beat around their bushor someone elses bush irritate me. i want people looking at my project everydetail and telling me DIRECT if they see something im doing wrong.. i had ratherget my feelings hurt than my f______ing neck broke.. safety is everyonesjob and it comes first.. hydeRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "Braniff1966"
This girl is 14, and rebuilding a Pontiac Fiero. About 3 minutes in, she startstalking about all the things she is learning while rebuilding the car... Howan engine works, how to weld, etc.It was like listening to a presentation about why you should build an airplane.It was inspiring! The only thing she could have done better was chose a Pietand build an airplane instead of a car... Enjoy!http://videos.komando.com/watch/6196/vi ... tm_content 14-08-17-article-screen-shot-bRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
This girl is 14, and rebuilding a Pontiac Fiero. About 3 minutes in, she startstalking about all the things she is learning while rebuilding the car... Howan engine works, how to weld, etc.It was like listening to a presentation about why you should build an airplane.It was inspiring! The only thing she could have done better was chose a Pietand build an airplane instead of a car... Enjoy!http://videos.komando.com/watch/6196/vi ... tm_content 14-08-17-article-screen-shot-bRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "bdewenter"
anyone know why this dude crashed in the first place...in crm where did the errorchain start??Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
anyone know why this dude crashed in the first place...in crm where did the errorchain start??Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: Kip Gmail
My 2 cents - WW using namesI don't think WW uses names to "humiliate" the person in the story. Rather (forme) its a wake up call - If a respected, intelligent, friendly person like Rickcan follow poor advice, what am I capable of doing? Seeing someones nameis a WW post forces me to pause a moment, and re-check my decision making abilitiesas they relate to risk management.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
My 2 cents - WW using namesI don't think WW uses names to "humiliate" the person in the story. Rather (forme) its a wake up call - If a respected, intelligent, friendly person like Rickcan follow poor advice, what am I capable of doing? Seeing someones nameis a WW post forces me to pause a moment, and re-check my decision making abilitiesas they relate to risk management.--------Bob 'Early Builder' DewenterDayton OHRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "TriScout"
Exactly, Bob. I think that could be the last word on the subject unless Rick chooses to share anything with the forum (which I, for one, would appreciate).Kip GardnerOn Aug 18, 2014, at 9:14 AM, bdewenter wrote:> >>> My 2 cents - WW using names>> I don't think WW uses names to "humiliate" the person in the story. > Rather (for me) its a wake up call - If a respected, intelligent, > friendly person like Rick can follow poor advice, what am I capable > of doing? Seeing someones name is a WW post forces me to pause a > moment, and re-check my decision making abilities as they relate to > risk management.>> --------> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter> Dayton OH>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Exactly, Bob. I think that could be the last word on the subject unless Rick chooses to share anything with the forum (which I, for one, would appreciate).Kip GardnerOn Aug 18, 2014, at 9:14 AM, bdewenter wrote:> >>> My 2 cents - WW using names>> I don't think WW uses names to "humiliate" the person in the story. > Rather (for me) its a wake up call - If a respected, intelligent, > friendly person like Rick can follow poor advice, what am I capable > of doing? Seeing someones name is a WW post forces me to pause a > moment, and re-check my decision making abilities as they relate to > risk management.>> --------> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter> Dayton OH>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
Original Posted By: "Braniff1966"
..reminds me of a wer wer 1 song.."Take the cylinder out of my Kidneys,The Connecting Rod out of me arse, me arse, >From the small of my back take the camshaft,And assembly the F___ing thing again!"--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/on21 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning
..reminds me of a wer wer 1 song.."Take the cylinder out of my Kidneys,The Connecting Rod out of me arse, me arse, >From the small of my back take the camshaft,And assembly the F___ing thing again!"--------KLNCA65-8N2308CAN HardwareAirframe 724TTW72CK-42 SensenichStandard Factory GN-1Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/on21 ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rick Schreiber - engine warning